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Article 22596
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:08:08 -0400
Subject: This was just too funny!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Ok, I don't normally pass this stuff along. But I can't understand the point
of this e-mail I received. It had no virus attached, no links, no real scam.
It's written so seriously that it's funny!

The tite of the e-mail was:
"DWG Needed vlssqdcxrxaly"

The body of the e-mail was:

Greetings,

We need a vendor who can offer immediate supply.
I'm offering $5,000 US dollars just for referring a vender which is
(Actually RELIABLE in providing the below equipment) Contact details
of vendor required, including name and phone #. If they turn out to be
reliable in supplying the below equipment I'll immediately pay you
$5,000. We prefer to work with vendor in the Boston/New York area.

1. The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a
series wrist watch with z80 or better memory adapter. If in stock the
AMD Dimensional Warp Generator module containing the GRC79 induction
motor, two I80200 warp stabilizers, 256GB of SRAM, and two Analog
Devices isolinear modules, This unit also has a menu driven GUI
accessible on the front panel XID display. All in 1 units would be
great if reliable models are available

2. The special 23200 or Acme 5X24 series time transducing capacitor
with built in temporal displacement. Needed with complete
jumper/auxiliary system

3. A reliable crystal Ionizor with unlimited memory backup.

4. I will also pay for Schematics, layouts, and designs directly
from the manufature which can be used to build this equipment
from readily available parts.

If your vendor turns out to be reliable, I owe you $5,000.

Email his details to me at: info@federalfundingprogram.com


Please do not reply directly back to this email as it will
only be bounced back to you.



wait
rnk  ngyj
  ioyo  qdeu c y hrj onvg cntplgbogk vvi

++End of message++

So, what do y`all make of this? Am i receiving messages from aliens, the
future, or just random nutcases? I feel like whipping up some plans for a "4
Dimensional Warp Generator" just to see what happens. Of course, the e-mail
link is probably just another spam harvester, but at least it was mildly
creative!

WJaKe



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Article 22597
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:09:59 -0700
Subject: Re: This was just too funny!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

It's a variant of an old newsgroup posting that occasionally still turns up.
The original is probably a joke, but this, as a knock-off, almost certainly
is.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined

William J. Keaton wrote:
> Ok, I don't normally pass this stuff along. But I can't understand
> the point of this e-mail I received. It had no virus attached, no
> links, no real scam. It's written so seriously that it's funny!
>
> The tite of the e-mail was:
> "DWG Needed vlssqdcxrxaly"
>
> The body of the e-mail was:
>
> Greetings,
>
> We need a vendor who can offer immediate supply.
> I'm offering $5,000 US dollars just for referring a vender which is
> (Actually RELIABLE in providing the below equipment) Contact details
> of vendor required, including name and phone #. If they turn out to be
> reliable in supplying the below equipment I'll immediately pay you
> $5,000. We prefer to work with vendor in the Boston/New York area.
>
> 1. The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a
> series wrist watch with z80 or better memory adapter. If in stock the
> AMD Dimensional Warp Generator module containing the GRC79 induction
> motor, two I80200 warp stabilizers, 256GB of SRAM, and two Analog
> Devices isolinear modules, This unit also has a menu driven GUI
> accessible on the front panel XID display. All in 1 units would be
> great if reliable models are available
>
> 2. The special 23200 or Acme 5X24 series time transducing capacitor
> with built in temporal displacement. Needed with complete
> jumper/auxiliary system
>
> 3. A reliable crystal Ionizor with unlimited memory backup.
>
> 4. I will also pay for Schematics, layouts, and designs directly
> from the manufature which can be used to build this equipment
> from readily available parts.
>
> If your vendor turns out to be reliable, I owe you $5,000.
>
> Email his details to me at: info@federalfundingprogram.com
>
>
> Please do not reply directly back to this email as it will
> only be bounced back to you.
>
>
>
> wait
> rnk  ngyj
>   ioyo  qdeu c y hrj onvg cntplgbogk vvi
>
> ++End of message++
>
> So, what do y`all make of this? Am i receiving messages from aliens,
> the future, or just random nutcases? I feel like whipping up some
> plans for a "4 Dimensional Warp Generator" just to see what happens.
> Of course, the e-mail link is probably just another spam harvester,
> but at least it was mildly creative!
>
> WJaKe



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Article 22598
From: Steve Beck (sbeck1@prodigy.net)
Date: 14 Jul 2003 04:14:37 GMT
Subject: Re: This was just too funny!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hm.  If I remember correctly, Ken MacLeod's ENGINES OF LIGHT series (COSMONAUT
KEEP ... DARK LIGHT ... ENGINE CITY) mentions alien beings spamming the
datasphere with instructions for building a working UFO (with anti-gravity
and a lightspeed drive).  Eventually someone builds one.  Something like
that.

I wonder if the novels might have inspired the spam, or vice versa.

(Ken MacLeod is currently one of my very favorite SF writers. His THE STAR
FRACTION and its sequels feature an interesting mixture of libertarian and
left-socialist viewpoints. Plus they're fun to read.)

As an earlier, snail-mail variant of this meme, Hayford Pierce wrote a couple
stories about a Hong Kong merchant, Chap Foey Rider, who makes first contact
with Galactic civilation through the postal service. Rider notices that
the farther a letter travels, the less time it seems to take to get there.
 So he addresses a letter to Alpha Centauri and breaks the lightspeed barrier
-- and gets a reply.  The first story was called "Mail Supremacy" and I
forget the name of the sequel.  They were in Jerry Pournelle's "The Stars
at War" anthology series.

-- Steve Beck

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Article 22599
From: Audrey Gifford 
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:52:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Not sure if this already went -

Is this My BOb? (who is quite grown up now)

The twins are still only 3, not quite in high school yet.

Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -

Same goes for me, anyway, as long as we are pretty thoroughly shackeled 
(sp?) by the babies I at least can't go anywahere.

BTW - Laura got into Berkeley (she got in to 6 other schools too - 
including Harvey Mudd) - Geo mught remember the whole spitting on the 
screen incident with that post about the behaviorits -

God that was 11 years ago.....

take care, Audrey






JT wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:46:03 -0400, Ed Johnson
> <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
> 
>>All:   So, when is the next Gathering?
> 
> 
> I am not likely to be attending anything that requires me to sleep
> away from my house while I have children who still need naps--so it'll
> be at least another few years.  Unless I go alone. If I am permitted.
> ;)
> 
> 
>>young Bob
> 
> 
> Who is not so young anymore!  Heck, the twins are probably in high
> school. <VBG>
> 
> Seriously, Ed, you've got the time, you've just been elected Planner
> of the Gathering. <D&R>
> 
> JT
> 
> 


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Article 22600
From: Robert Slater" 
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:12:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Audrey,
I'm still hanging out. I check the e-mails regularly and even reply once in
a while.
Rob
(SIFI Rob)
This is what I've been up to.  Creating the webpages for an online Master's
class in html.  http://www.sff.net/people/robert-slater/


"Audrey Gifford" <agifford@surewest.net> wrote in message
news:3F123711.5020900@surewest.net...
> Not sure if this already went -
>
> Is this My BOb? (who is quite grown up now)
>
> The twins are still only 3, not quite in high school yet.
>
> Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -
>
> Same goes for me, anyway, as long as we are pretty thoroughly shackeled
> (sp?) by the babies I at least can't go anywahere.
>
> BTW - Laura got into Berkeley (she got in to 6 other schools too -
> including Harvey Mudd) - Geo mught remember the whole spitting on the
> screen incident with that post about the behaviorits -
>
> God that was 11 years ago.....
>
> take care, Audrey
>
>
>
>
>
>
> JT wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:46:03 -0400, Ed Johnson
> > <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
> >
> >>All:   So, when is the next Gathering?
> >
> >
> > I am not likely to be attending anything that requires me to sleep
> > away from my house while I have children who still need naps--so it'll
> > be at least another few years.  Unless I go alone. If I am permitted.
> > ;)
> >
> >
> >>young Bob
> >
> >
> > Who is not so young anymore!  Heck, the twins are probably in high
> > school. <VBG>
> >
> > Seriously, Ed, you've got the time, you've just been elected Planner
> > of the Gathering. <D&R>
> >
> > JT
> >
> >
>
>



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Article 22601
From: Bill Dauphin 
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:10:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 7/14/03 12:52 AM, in article 3F123711.5020900@surewest.net, "Audrey
Gifford" <agifford@surewest.net> wrote:

> Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -

I guess I count. I'll probably start posting more in a month or two;
finishing up my Masters in Space Studies with a week in residence at U of
North Dakota in early August, and being done will feel like being released
from prison!

-JovBill


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Article 22602
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:05:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:52:33 -0700, Audrey Gifford
<agifford@surewest.net> wrote:

>Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -

I guess I qualify as an "old cobber", I'm still here ( still crazy
after all these...sorry wrong song)

BC still pops in here & there too

Fader

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Article 22603
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:35:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Bill:
   If  you have to be in North Dakota, August is a heck of a lot
better that January or February!   I lived in No. Dak. from late
September 1971 until May 1, 1975. (count `em: 4 full winters, ugh!)
It gets hot in the summer and the mosquitos are fierce, but those
winters are deadly <ng>.  
    Good Luck with you Masters in Space Studies.

Ed J



On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:10:20 -0400, Bill Dauphin
<dauphinb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On 7/14/03 12:52 AM, in article 3F123711.5020900@surewest.net, "Audrey
>Gifford" <agifford@surewest.net> wrote:
>
>> Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -
>
>I guess I count. I'll probably start posting more in a month or two;
>finishing up my Masters in Space Studies with a week in residence at U of
>North Dakota in early August, and being done will feel like being released
>from prison!
>
>-JovBill


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Article 22604
From: sbeck1@prodigy.net
Date: 16 Jul 2003 10:44:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

>Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -

Hi, Audrey. (This is Audrey the teacher from Lodi, right?) 

This is Steve from the orginal Prodigy HF. I just rediscovered this place,
and will pop in from time to time.

-- Steve Beck

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Article 22605
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:06:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hey Audrey!!

"Audrey Gifford" <agifford@surewest.net> wrote in message
news:3F123711.5020900@surewest.net...
> Not sure if this already went -
>
> Is this My BOb? (who is quite grown up now)
>
> The twins are still only 3, not quite in high school yet.
>
> Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -
>
Oh, I still hang around from time to time! Quieter thann I used to be, but
alot of us are, for a variety of reasons.

Glad to hear Bob and Laura are doing so well. The twins sound like a real
handful! And yes, it has been a long time hasn't it!

Say Hi! to Jim for me, ok?

WJaKe



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Article 22606
From: James Hunt 
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:18:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum



Audrey Gifford wrote:

> 
> Any old cobbers here beside WJAKE and JT? Deb and Geo -

I'm here--back in the shadows.  (GemStone  AKA James Stone Hunt)
I don't often speak as others usually say it first and better.  I would 
like to throw in a very basic question which is something completely 
different:  Do we live in a totally digital universe?  When I say 
totally, I really mean it.  Are such things as time and location quanta? 
  If so, is there any way to find out?  If it is digital, is this 
universe just a program running in God's computer?  Would anyone care to 
take a crack at this?  To tie this to Heinlein, I remember in his *Gulf* 
in 1949 he had already thought of this: "You are now studying the 
extension of the quantum concept to all features of the continuum.  You 
know the chronon, the mensum, and the viton as quanta, as well as the 
action units of quanta such as the photon.  The continuum has not only 
structure but texture in all its features.  The least unit of thought we 
term the psychon."
By the way, I am 71 years old.  Is there anyone here who is older?  Does 
this make me The Senior?

Jim


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Article 22607
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:35:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Jim:
    No one has heard from Bruce in quite some time.  I'd guess that
if there are no other challengers, you would be the Senior.
  BTW:  Has anyone heard from Rosie Postelnek or Bill Dailey?

Ed J (2 cents worth)

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:18:59 -0500, James Hunt
<jhunt1@cox-internet.com> wrote:

>

>
>I'm here--back in the shadows.  (GemStone  AKA James Stone Hunt)
>I don't often speak as others usually say it first and better.  I would 
>like to throw in a very basic question which is something completely 
>different:  Do we live in a totally digital universe?  When I say 
>totally, I really mean it.  Are such things as time and location quanta? 
>  If so, is there any way to find out?  If it is digital, is this 
>universe just a program running in God's computer?  Would anyone care to 
>take a crack at this?  To tie this to Heinlein, I remember in his *Gulf* 
>in 1949 he had already thought of this: "You are now studying the 
>extension of the quantum concept to all features of the continuum.  You 
>know the chronon, the mensum, and the viton as quanta, as well as the 
>action units of quanta such as the photon.  The continuum has not only 
>structure but texture in all its features.  The least unit of thought we 
>term the psychon."
>By the way, I am 71 years old.  Is there anyone here who is older?  Does 
>this make me The Senior?
>
>Jim


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Article 22608
From: JT 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:08:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:35:40 -0400, Ed Johnson
<eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
>Jim:
>    No one has heard from Bruce in quite some time.  I'd guess that
>if there are no other challengers, you would be the Senior.
>  BTW:  Has anyone heard from Rosie Postelnek or Bill Dailey?
>
>Ed J (2 cents worth)

Isn't that the way Senior works?  Someone has to come forward and
claim to be older. ;)

As far as Rosie & Bill, both posted in SFF Net "near" past.  I found a
post from 9/2000 listing her as rpostelnek@prodigy.net and from  Bill
Dailey in 6/2002 as WDailey611@aol.com .  (Agent's Global Search
feature is pretty nice!)

But it -has- been a while.  I was wondering how Rob3 is doing.  If
he's still in the Guard/Reserves he may be doing desert duty.  If Doc
ever pops back in he might know....

JT



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Article 22609
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:35:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I just returned from the Butler board meeting yesterday.  Ginny gave us
one last posthumous gift of $200,000, for a total of about $2 million. 
She was a nice lady who really did believe in paying it forward  and
practiced what she preached.
Jim Cunningham

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Article 22610
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:00:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"James R. Cunningham" <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3F199D78.CD9E80D8@bellsouth.net...
> I just returned from the Butler board meeting yesterday.

Is this for the library in Butler, MO

> Ginny gave us
> one last posthumous gift of $200,000, for a total of about $2 million.
> She was a nice lady who really did believe in paying it forward  and
> practiced what she preached.

Fabulous. What more can you say?

WJaKe



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Article 22611
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:15:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT:  I am in almost daily E-Mail contact with Doc.  I don't know
what he knows, but I will ask him.

Ed J

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:08:16 -0400, JT <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote:

>As far as Rosie & Bill, both posted in SFF Net "near" past.  I found a
>post from 9/2000 listing her as rpostelnek@prodigy.net and from  Bill
>Dailey in 6/2002 as WDailey611@aol.com .  (Agent's Global Search
>feature is pretty nice!)
>
>But it -has- been a while.  I was wondering how Rob3 is doing.  If
>he's still in the Guard/Reserves he may be doing desert duty.  If Doc
>ever pops back in he might know....
>
>JT
>


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Article 22612
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:20:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT:  How about Mannie in Alaska?  
The old Prodigy Forum had some lively discussions and some great
areas of interest (such as cryptography).   sigh. . .    those were
the good old days. <g>.

Ed J
(BTW: didn't you head up a discussion group called "Ask the
Propellor-Heads?  <G,D & R>

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:08:16 -0400, JT <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote:
)
>
>Isn't that the way Senior works?  Someone has to come forward and
>claim to be older. ;)
>


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Article 22613
From: JT 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:12:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:20:17 -0400, Ed Johnson
<eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:

>(BTW: didn't you head up a discussion group called "Ask the
>Propellor-Heads?  <G,D & R>
>

I might have been a part of it, but I think it was run by bytor. ;)

>The old Prodigy Forum had some lively discussions and some great
>areas of interest (such as cryptography).   sigh. . .    those were
>the good old days. <g>.
>

"Eh, Sonny, I remember back in the mid-90s, mind you, this was before
your newfangled Internet, we had to dial into servers and post text
messages!  And this was at 2400 bps, uphill both ways!  And we were
GLAD for it."

<g,d, &r!>

JT


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Article 22614
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:50:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Yes, we support the needs of the Butler library and the addition to it
that Ginny built a little over ten years ago.

William J. Keaton wrote:

> Is this for the library in Butler, MO
 
> Fabulous. What more can you say?

I don't have enough words to express my appreciation for her. I've known
her for fifteen years, a quarter of my life, and consider her friendship
to be a true honor.  If Robert was anything like her, he must have been
quite a guy.

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Article 22615
From: gunner" 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:58:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Do Not Call Me:)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

and two more were mine
"gunner"
------------------------
"JT" <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote in message
news:tjurfv0tqi1ojfrvf80uav991knpucf2ro@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:43:01 -0700, "Filksinger"
> <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:
>
> >The national Do Not Call list is now active. If your name is on this
list,
> >then most telemarketers cannot call you. For more information, see:
> >
> >http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/
>
> www.donotcall.gov
>
> They did something like 700,000 numbers the first day, 3 of which were
> mine. ;)
>
> JT
>



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Article 22616
From: gunner" 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:20:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

best luck with the new job david
"gunner"
--------------------------
"Filksinger" <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:3ef93d2b.0@news.sff.net...
> Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
> read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
> mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
> systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
>
> I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
> realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start
until
> at least Friday....
>
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
>
>
>



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Article 22617
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:17:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT:   Yeah, 2400 baud modems.  Do you remember when Plodigy charged
extra for connecting at the unheard-of speed of 9600?  The Rats!
     Ugly, monochrome text messages; still: we managed to keep in
touch.
The late `80's and early `90's were truly the 'dark ages' of
Internet communications.  
-------- In the movie "War Games" the protagonist is using a 300
baud acoustic modem.  What a dinosaur!  That was before my Internet
usage.  Anyone here use one of those for communications from home?

Ed J

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:12:31 -0400, JT <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote:

>>
>
>"Eh, Sonny, I remember back in the mid-90s, mind you, this was before
>your newfangled Internet, we had to dial into servers and post text
>messages!  And this was at 2400 bps, uphill both ways!  And we were
>GLAD for it."
>
><g,d, &r!>
>
>JT


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Article 22618
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:22:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Thanks for the welcome
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:
<snip>
> "Eh, Sonny, I remember back in the mid-90s, mind you, this was before
> your newfangled Internet, we had to dial into servers and post text
> messages!  And this was at 2400 bps, uphill both ways!  And we were
> GLAD for it."
>
> <g,d, &r!>

There is a wonderful filksong called "When I Was a Boy", sung by Steve
McDonald and written by , making the traditional ridiculous comments of an
"old fogey" about computers. The slightly disturbing part is when I realize
that, in spite of such ridiculous claims as "playing Pong on our radio",
some of it applies _literally_ to me. "We carried our bits in a bucket", and
"We did our computing in ones and in zeroes", for example.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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