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Article 23068
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:42:40 -0400
Subject: FYI - CA Election
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/00.htm

In case anyone cares.

WJaKe



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Article 23069
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:19:11 GMT
Subject: Re: FYI - CA Election
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>In case anyone cares.

  It was fun. California politics ala` "Friday". I was astounded when
our station (I was at work that night) called the election at about
8:01, as soon as the polls closed based on exit polling--so did all
the east-coast news services. Guess that Florida election lesson
didn't stick. 



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Article 23070
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:49:59 -0700
Subject: Re: FYI - CA Election
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Deb Houdek Rule wrote:
> > In case anyone cares.
>
>   It was fun. California politics ala` "Friday". I was astounded when
> our station (I was at work that night) called the election at about
> 8:01, as soon as the polls closed based on exit polling--so did all
> the east-coast news services. Guess that Florida election lesson
> didn't stick.

With a 17% lead? I'm surprised they waited until the polls closed.:)

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23071
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:09:36 -0700
Subject: The Unmentionable Appliance of the Future!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Remember in (IIRC) TCWWTW, when the protagonist had to be shown how to use
the Tertius toilets? Maybe the Long family has a Washlet!

http://www.washlet.com/default.asp

I understand the Japanese version makes storm sounds while washing, and
windy, blowing sounds while it is blow-drying your butt, but Americans
apparently don't like toilets that sound like monsoons.

--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23072
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 11 Oct 2003 22:26:13 GMT
Subject: New THS Dinner Page
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Very unfriendly to dial-up users, but lots o'
pics --http://www.heinleinsociety.org/conventions/torcon2003/awarddinner.htm
l

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Article 23073
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:03:18 GMT
Subject: Re: FYI - CA Election
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>With a 17% lead? I'm surprised they waited until the polls closed.:)

  Arnold's lead was irrelevant at that point in time--he could have
had 100% of the vote and still lost if the recall question had gone
the other way. The spread on the recall question was closer and varied
more throughout the night and that was the big deciding question.
After that, Arnold was an easier call (surprised, though, how much
lead over Bustamante he had). All the news people just want to be
first. 

Deb


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Article 23074
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 12 Oct 2003 03:42:30 GMT
Subject: Re: New THS Dinner Page
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Somebody pointed out that the final 'l' got wrapped on the earlier posting.
. 

http://www.heinleinsociety.org/conventions/torcon2003/awarddinner.html

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Article 23075
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:44:48 -0700
Subject: Re: FYI - CA Election
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

William J. Keaton wrote:
> http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/00.htm
>
> In case anyone cares.
>
> WJaKe

For people who want to know more, try:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/national/20031006_ca_RESULTS/, or

http://shorterlink.com/?OHP8RB


-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23076
From: gunner" 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 05:56:05 -0400
Subject: Re: The Unmentionable Appliance of the Future!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

for some reason this makes me think of "crocodile dundee" and his puzzlement
at the bidet in the first film
"gunner"
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"Filksinger" <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:3f87e4f5.0@news.sff.net...
> Remember in (IIRC) TCWWTW, when the protagonist had to be shown how to use
> the Tertius toilets? Maybe the Long family has a Washlet!
>
> http://www.washlet.com/default.asp
>
> I understand the Japanese version makes storm sounds while washing, and
> windy, blowing sounds while it is blow-drying your butt, but Americans
> apparently don't like toilets that sound like monsoons.
>
> --
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
>
>



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Article 23077
From: fader55@delete.sbcglobal.net (Fader)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:14:06 GMT
Subject: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Mark (my tenant) just got a new computer, it came with WinXP pro, we
are going to hook him up to my DSL connection. Does this mean that we
are a LAN, & does that mean that I can install the WinXP on my
computer as well?

Fader 

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Article 23078
From: JT 
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:59:45 -0400
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:14:06 GMT, fader55@delete.sbcglobal.net (Fader)
wrote:

>Mark (my tenant) just got a new computer, it came with WinXP pro, we
>are going to hook him up to my DSL connection. Does this mean that we
>are a LAN, & does that mean that I can install the WinXP on my
>computer as well?
>
>Fader 

1. Yes, you are creating a Local Area Network in your house.
2. No, you do not have an additional license for WinXP.  I'd be
surprised if the recovery CD for his PC worked on yours.

WinXP retail editions "phone home" once after you install it to verify
that a copy is not being reused.  OEM versions (like from Dell) use a
special key as they install that you wouldn't have access to, I think.

WinXP is also a resource hog.  You may not have enough memory to run
it without cursing depending on what your system specs are.  Although
I did just recently install it on a PC with 64 megs memory (I was
rebuilding my second PC that died) that is not for the impatient. ;)
(and I later added memory back to get it to 512 megs.)

JT


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Article 23079
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:39 -0700
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Fader wrote:
> Mark (my tenant) just got a new computer, it came with WinXP pro, we
> are going to hook him up to my DSL connection. Does this mean that we
> are a LAN, & does that mean that I can install the WinXP on my
> computer as well?
>
> Fader

1. Yes, you are a LAN, if it works, though you may not be connected in such
a way as for him to connect to your machine or vice versa, though you likely
can. There are many possible configurations, but most (and certainly the
best) tend to require a router and hub/switch, either separate or as one
unit.

Some modems are also routers, but you will still need a hub/switch. Other
modems will work without a router if you have them on a hub/switch, but only
one machine will connect to the Internet at a time (Earthlink does this).
Alternately, you can use one of the machines as a router, but, if you do,
that machine will need two network cards, and the second machine's Internet
access will be through the first machine.

2. Not legally. If you install it illegally, then your computer will partly
shut down in 30 days unless you convince Microsoft to give you a Product
Activation code that fits your particular computer. This code is specific to
your computer's hardware, so his won't work unless you have exactly the same
parts.

Additionally, XP will not always run well on a computer that isn't quite
up-to-date. I have run it reasonably well on a 400 Mhz Pentium III with 192
MB RAM, and it should run tolerably well with less RAM, though, as always,
that is a matter of what you run and personal tastes. Less than 128 MB RAM
is the best lower limit.
-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23080
From: fader55@delete.sbcglobal.net (Fader)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:44:24 GMT
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:39 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>Fader wrote:
>> Mark (my tenant) just got a new computer, it came with WinXP pro, we
>> are going to hook him up to my DSL connection. Does this mean that we
>> are a LAN, & does that mean that I can install the WinXP on my
>> computer as well?
>>
>> Fader
>
I was told that part of the reason for spending the extra money for
XPpro (as opposed to XPhome) was because it was for businesses to
install on more than one computer.

I have a 700MHz with 128MB ram.

Fader 


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Article 23081
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Fader wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:39 -0700, "Filksinger"
> <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:
>
> > Fader wrote:
> > > Mark (my tenant) just got a new computer, it came with WinXP pro,
> > > we are going to hook him up to my DSL connection. Does this mean
> > > that we are a LAN, & does that mean that I can install the WinXP
> > > on my computer as well?
> > >
> > > Fader
> >
> I was told that part of the reason for spending the extra money for
> XPpro (as opposed to XPhome) was because it was for businesses to
> install on more than one computer.
>
> I have a 700MHz with 128MB ram.
>
> Fader

Should be fast enough. May want to consider bumping the RAM, but you'll
probably do fine.

You'll want a lot of drive space for XP. If you are short at all, you will
want to find out about ways to reduce the space it eats.


-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23082
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 15 Oct 2003 16:40:08 GMT
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I once got a Celly 800 laptop to boot XP Home on 64mb of RAM. (It was in
for service and they took out my 256mb upgrade chip that I added afterwords).
 Took about 20 mins, and wouldn't load Word after booting.

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Article 23083
From: JT 
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:32:25 -0400
Subject: Re: MS Tech/Legal Question
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:44:24 GMT, fader55@delete.sbcglobal.net (Fader)
wrote:

>I was told that part of the reason for spending the extra money for
>XPpro (as opposed to XPhome) was because it was for businesses to
>install on more than one computer.
>

Incomplete advice--XP Pro is better for -networking- businesses
together (as compared to XP Home).  You don't think Microsoft would
give up licen$ing opportunities, do you? ;)

XP Home machines can't be a part of a NT/2000 "domain" which makes
their adminstration more difficult, and much harder to manage if you
have more than 10 machines. 

JT



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