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Article 21138
From: Michael P. Calligaro" 
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:29:20 -0700
Subject: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

"Eli Hestermann" <ehestermann@tmlp.com> wrote in message
news:3D09BAD2.6CF0A541@tmlp.com...
> Wasn't it bytor who said if he didn't see any non-quoted
> text without scrolling down, then he wouldn't read the post?

I resemble that remark.

I just had dinner with BC and his new wife (very nice lady) and it made me
feel like digging the forum up.  Damn, this place hasn't changed a bit
(which, of course, is a good thing).  Good to see so many friendly faces.

Deb, I desperately owe you an email.  It went from, "I'm really busy at work
right now, but I'll write back soon," to "I'm so stupidy busy at work right
now that I can't imagine breathing on my own time, much less writing
anything, but it sure has been a while since I got that mail," to "Jeez,
it's been so long now that she's going to think I hate her."  The good news
is that I'm keeping busy.  The bad news is that, well, I'm keeping busy.  I
will write back though.  I'm scared to use the "s" word, but I WILL write
back.

Ed, I did send a mail to you, but I'm not sure I had the correct address.
If you didn't get it, Julie and I send our deepest condolances.

'rita, Congrats gandma!  By the time I got far enough down to figure out
what the contest was about, I was reading fairly quickly, and I never saw
which of your daughters was the the new mommie.  And, since I didn't see any
names, I'm not sure if I just missed them or if you were purposely not
saying for some reason.  So I'll be cryptic.  Is in A or E?  Either way,
please tell her I said congrats.

To everyone else, reading over the posts from the last month or so, I got a
big smile every time I saw a name I recognized/remembered, which means that
I spent most of the time smiling.  There are only about two or three people
here that I don't think I know.  It's great to see you all again.

bytor



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Article 21139
From: David Silver 
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:23:47 -0700
Subject: ConJose -- Annual Heinlein Dinner
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Anyone local to San Jose, California, who perhaps might be planning to 
attend ConJose (Labor Day weekend), and/or who has current knowledge of 
the restaurant situation close in to the City of San Jose, is requested 
to drop me an E-mail. [Please use either ag.plusone@verizon.net or 
secretary@heinleinsociety.org -- I hardly look at the aol.com addy any 
more -- box is too spam-filled.]

Zim needs a "volunteer," or, perhaps, simply someone to run fresh 
reconnaissance to help plan and organize the Annual Heinlein Dinner. We 
may, emphasize, "may" be awarding the recently-announced "Heinlein 
Award" for new science-fiction, among other things, at that dinner.

You know the drill: 'ARE YOU A COWARD? This is not for you. . . . etc.'

You need not be a member of The Heinlein Society to help out. [Warning: 
But I don't guarantee you won't be a non-member much longer if you reply.]


-- 
David M. Silver
Secretary-Treasurer
The Heinlein Society
P.O. Box 1254
Venice, California 90294-1254
   http://www.heinleinsociety.org
   http://www.readinggroupsonline.com/groups/heinlein.htm
   "The Lieutenant expects your names to shine!"
       Robert Anson Heinlein, USNA '29
       Lt (jg)., USN R'td (1907-1988)


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Article 21140
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:26:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:29:20 -0700, "Michael P. Calligaro"
<bytor@mystikeep.com> wrote:
>I resemble that remark.
>
Great to see you, bytor. Try and pop in once a month or so, always
glad to hear what's going on at Redmond if nothing else. ;)

I bet Matthew's a handful.  If I didn't keep forgetting how to see
your pictures (if you've been able to keep them up) I'd check....

all the best,

JT

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Article 21141
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:24:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Well, if you check my brag pages...

A&A who just celebrated four years of married life are waiting at least
another year for children.

Meanwhile, Skye has been back in the hospital for an infection.  I'm running
in circles and Erin is frazzled.
--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Michael P. Calligaro" <bytor@mystikeep.com> wrote in message
news:3d0d73a9.0@news.sff.net...
> which of your daughters was the the new mommie.  And, since I didn't see
any
> names, I'm not sure if I just missed them or if you were purposely not
> saying for some reason.  So I'll be cryptic.  Is in A or E?  Either way,
> please tell her I said congrats.
>
> To everyone else, reading over the posts from the last month or so, I got
a
> big smile every time I saw a name I recognized/remembered, which means
that
> I spent most of the time smiling.  There are only about two or three
people
> here that I don't think I know.  It's great to see you all again.
>
> bytor
>
>
>



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Article 21142
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:34:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

bytor:   Thank you both for your kind thoughts.
(must have been an old address, sorry, I never got it.)

Ed 

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:29:20 -0700, "Michael P. Calligaro"
<bytor@mystikeep.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Ed, I did send a mail to you, but I'm not sure I had the correct address.
>If you didn't get it, Julie and I send our deepest condolances.
><snip>
>To everyone else, reading over the posts from the last month or so, I got a
>big smile every time I saw a name I recognized/remembered, which means that
>I spent most of the time smiling.  There are only about two or three people
>here that I don't think I know.  It's great to see you all again.
>
>bytor
>


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Article 21143
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 00:32:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Michael P. Calligaro" <bytor@mystikeep.com> wrote in message
news:3d0d73a9.0@news.sff.net...
> "Eli Hestermann" <ehestermann@tmlp.com> wrote in message
> news:3D09BAD2.6CF0A541@tmlp.com...
> > Wasn't it bytor who said if he didn't see any non-quoted
> > text without scrolling down, then he wouldn't read the post?
>
> I resemble that remark.
>
One of the gang I was just thinking about! Good to see your pixels around
again. Any chance of seeing your actual physical presence sometime? WorldCon
is on the West Coast this year, Do You Know the Way to San Jose?

Don't be stranger! ("a" left intentionally out. <g>)

WJaKe



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Article 21144
From: kevin mcgillicuddy" 
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:00:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Michael P. Calligaro" <bytor@mystikeep.com> wrote in message
news:3d0d73a9.0@news.sff.net...
> "Eli Hestermann" <ehestermann@tmlp.com> wrote in message
> news:3D09BAD2.6CF0A541@tmlp.com...
> > Wasn't it bytor who said if he didn't see any non-quoted
> > text without scrolling down, then he wouldn't read the post?
>
> I resemble that remark.
>
> I just had dinner with BC and his new wife (very nice lady) and it made me
> feel like digging the forum up.
<snip>
> bytor


Careful, it's addicting.

McKevin



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Article 21145
From: WDailey611@aol.com
Date: 19 Jun 2002 17:43:35 GMT
Subject: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hello all.  Bill Dailey here.  I was on HF from '92 to about '98 or '99
on Prodigy.  Then Prodigy discontinued their "Classic" service and my computer
(a 386 - ugh!) was not up to the task of handling Prodigy Internet.  Then
y'all went to this newsgroup.  Well, I finally bought a new computer and,
thanks to Deb Houdek-Rule, I've found my way here again.  I've lurked for
a few days and I see some familiar folks from the "old days":  Bytor, JT,
WJaKe, Big Charlie, and of course Deb and Geo.  I don't know how often I'll
be posting, but I'm looking forward to conversing with everyone again.

Bill

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Article 21146
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:06:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hi Bill--
  Glad to see you made your way here. Jai stops in sometimes too but
haven't seen her here recently (Jai, her husband, Bill, and I had
dinner together two summers ago). 



Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21147
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:11:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 19 Jun 2002 17:43:35 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:

>Hello all.  Bill Dailey here. 

Bill!!!  This is great.  Why does everyone pop back in a pack? Good
things come in threes, right, so who's next?

While the Forum itself hasn't changed a lot, some of the people sure
have.  For instance, I was a young punk when I started, and now I'm
just a punk.  

Rumor has it that Bob Lawson is about to file for his first patent on
the hyperdrive technology. <G> 

JT

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Article 21148
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:33:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Bill:  Welcome back!  It has been a while since we heard from
GXJH94A (aka: Bill in Mpls)  <G>.

Ed J

On 19 Jun 2002 17:43:35 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:

>Hello all.  Bill Dailey here.  I was on HF from '92 to about '98 or '99
>on Prodigy.  Then Prodigy discontinued their "Classic" service and my computer
>(a 386 - ugh!) was not up to the task of handling Prodigy Internet.  Then
>y'all went to this newsgroup.  Well, I finally bought a new computer and,
>thanks to Deb Houdek-Rule, I've found my way here again.  I've lurked for
>a few days and I see some familiar folks from the "old days":  Bytor, JT,
>WJaKe, Big Charlie, and of course Deb and Geo.  I don't know how often I'll
>be posting, but I'm looking forward to conversing with everyone again.
>
>Bill


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Article 21149
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:38:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

McKevin:  How is the non-practice of law going in Austin (IIRC)
these days? Long time, no see. 
Somedays I actually think that I miss the old Plodigy newsgroup <g>.

Ed J

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:00:04 -0500, "kevin mcgillicuddy"
<kmcgillicuddy@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Michael P. Calligaro"  wrote
>
>> I just had dinner with BC and his new wife (very nice lady) and it made me
>> feel like digging the forum up.
><snip>
>> bytor
>
>
>Careful, it's addicting.
>
>McKevin
>


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Article 21150
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:39:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Deb:  If we could get Doc ObiWan to uncloak, it might liven the
place up somewhat <g>.

Ed J

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:06:19 GMT, debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek
Rule) wrote:

>Hi Bill--
>  Glad to see you made your way here. Jai stops in sometimes too but
>haven't seen her here recently (Jai, her husband, Bill, and I had
>dinner together two summers ago). 
>
>
>
>Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
>http://www.dahoudek.com
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com


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Article 21151
From: Wdailey611@aol.com
Date: 20 Jun 2002 06:24:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT,

Wow, you remember.  Didn't we meet at the Reel 'n' Trigger in Missouri?
 Or was it at MLinOR's place in Eugene, OR?

And speaking of Bob ("Bobby") Lawson, what is he, a college graduate now?

Bill in KC  (I'm not in Minneapolis anymore, I'm in Kansas City.)

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Article 21152
From: WDailey611@aol.com
Date: 20 Jun 2002 06:31:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Ed J,

Yeah, I remember you, too.  And where did you come up with GXJH94A?  Man,
I didn't even remember that!

Bill in KC

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Article 21153
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:52:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum



>Deb:  If we could get Doc ObiWan to uncloak, it might liven the
>place up somewhat <g>.

That would be grand. I keep trying to convince Linda to come back for
a visit too.


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21154
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:52:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>GXJH94A (aka: Bill in Mpls)  

  <hushed, awed applause>

  Wow--how'd you remember his *P id?


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21155
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:53:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>Deb, I desperately owe you an email. 

  Don't fret about it. Glad to hear you're just busy--I was _hoping_
you were just busy. Do try to stop in more often, though.


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21156
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:41:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:11:39 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:

>While the Forum itself hasn't changed a lot, some of the people sure
>have.  For instance, I was a young punk when I started, and now I'm
>just a punk.  
>
Gee, & I was thinking old punk, just shows to go 'ya.<bfg>

Fader


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Article 21157
From: Dee" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:20:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

bytor--

    Boy, is it great to see your pixels.  And you got Deb to uncloak, and
Bill Dailey has appeared, and . . .  How ownderful to see the old/new faces
again.  _Please_ don't wait so long between visits, next time.  You've been
missed.  Along with general conversation, we haven't had a computer lesson
in _forever_.  <g>

--Dee2



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Article 21158
From: Dee" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:23:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Bill--

    Hi.  It's great to see you!  And between you and bytor, you "persuaded"
Deb to be more visible, too.  Now that  you are able to get here, please
come around often.  We  have'nt heard from you in _way_ too long.

--Dee



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Article 21159
From: Dee" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:28:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Deb Houdek Rule" <debrule@dahoudek.com> wrote in message
news:3d118925.876065@NEWS.SFF.NET...
> >Deb:  If we could get Doc ObiWan to uncloak, it might liven the
> >place up somewhat <g>.

> That would be grand. I keep trying to convince Linda to come back for
> a visit too.

Hi, Deb--

    I've tried, too, but with no luck.  I wonder if you could have more
success on your homefront?  Geo has been way too silent.  If we could get
Geo and Doc and Jai around, all at the same time, I'm sure it would liven
things up.  All three of them are such excellent (I forget the word at the
moment) stimulators of conversation.
    I'm glad to have seen more of you recently.  Hope you can find time for
longer notes.

--Dee2



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Article 21160
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:05:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

All of these names sound creepily familiar to me. How many of you are 
(or were) DC-area fen, and, do I know all of you in a "in-person" sense 
from 10 or more years ago????
-Wendy of NJ

JT wrote:

> On 19 Jun 2002 17:43:35 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello all.  Bill Dailey here. 
>>
> 
> Bill!!!  This is great.  Why does everyone pop back in a pack? Good
> things come in threes, right, so who's next?
> 
> While the Forum itself hasn't changed a lot, some of the people sure
> have.  For instance, I was a young punk when I started, and now I'm
> just a punk.  
> 
> Rumor has it that Bob Lawson is about to file for his first patent on
> the hyperdrive technology. <G> 
> 
> JT
> 


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Article 21161
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:07:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Voxwoman" <voxwoman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3D11D32A.4080608@hotmail.com...
> All of these names sound creepily familiar to me. How many of you are
> (or were) DC-area fen, and, do I know all of you in a "in-person" sense
> from 10 or more years ago????
> -Wendy of NJ
>
Well, I am DC area, but have not been active in local fandom. And I arrived
here (DC and the HF) almost 10 years ago. I'm the only DC local, unless
MadgeEdith pops up, of the long-lost John Loomis.

WJaKe



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Article 21162
From: WDailey611@aol.com
Date: 20 Jun 2002 17:38:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Doc told me a great story about dropping a beer bottle from a hotel window
onto some military police dudes in Saigon.

Bill in KC

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Article 21163
From: WDailey611.com
Date: 20 Jun 2002 17:49:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Fader,

What's the difference between old punk and new punk?  All I know is punk,
which was back in the early '80s.  Heck, I grew up with the Beatles.

Bill in KC

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Article 21164
From: WDailey611@aol.com
Date: 20 Jun 2002 17:55:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Dee,

Yeah, I remember you too.  I'll try to be around here more often.

Bill in KC

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Article 21165
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:11:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>All three of them are such excellent (I forget the word at the
>moment) stimulators of conversation.

  The word would be something like "incitetors" as in "incite to riot"
:-)

  Geo comes and goes here. I read the Forum just about every day but
post in my own news group more often. I'm actually doing a fair bit of
Heinlein-related work outside the Forum. My Heinlein web page gets a
lot of hits and my recent article on my research into Heinlein's
family history got an endorsement from Mrs. H in my guestbook. 

 
Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21166
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:27:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 20 Jun 2002 06:24:53 GMT, Wdailey611@aol.com wrote:
>JT,
>
>Wow, you remember.  Didn't we meet at the Reel 'n' Trigger in Missouri?
> Or was it at MLinOR's place in Eugene, OR?
>
>And speaking of Bob ("Bobby") Lawson, what is he, a college graduate now?
>
>Bill in KC  (I'm not in Minneapolis anymore, I'm in Kansas City.)
I remember you in MO and OR.  I was at both.  Bob is, I think, going
into his sophomore year in college.

Wendy (per your note): I'm in the suburbs of Baltimore, been here for
around 8 years now.  I'm not a very active conventioneer; only been to
two Balticons, one Shore Leave, and the WorldCon in Baltimore a few
years ago.  But I don't dress up or filk, so you wouldn't have noticed
me. ;)

JT
(aka MGPB34A, I don't remember my MemRep or Board Leader accounts ;)

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Article 21167
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:27:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:41:56 GMT, fader555@aol.com (Fader) wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:11:39 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:
>
>>While the Forum itself hasn't changed a lot, some of the people sure
>>have.  For instance, I was a young punk when I started, and now I'm
>>just a punk.  
>>
>Gee, & I was thinking old punk, just shows to go 'ya.<bfg>
>
>Fader
>
OK, 'Granpa'.  But it's not as funny now--you really are!  <G,D,&R!>

JT

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Article 21168
From: kevin mcgillicuddy" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:32:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:o6c2hukqldomp443hnk6aiumiaul9fghpq@4ax.com...
> McKevin:  How is the non-practice of law going in Austin (IIRC)
> these days? Long time, no see.
> Somedays I actually think that I miss the old Plodigy newsgroup <g>.
>
> Ed J
>
It's doing fine.  Still at the same job, although a change in duties (a
promotion) around the beginning of 1997 caused me way too much work, and I
fell off of HF for about 4 years, until I gave back the position in favor of
my old job.  Still way too busy to participate much, but I check in here
from time to time.

McKevin



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Article 21169
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:42:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Bill:  
      Back in December of 1994 (when I first found the Heinlein
Forum) JT must have requested a listing of active members from you.
On Jan 3rd, 1995 (5:07 AM) under "HF Roll Call"  you posted a list
of 24 names and Prodigy ID's and signoff names.  I printed it out
and saved it in a folder along with Bio's from Roll call (I thought
that we were going to create a year-book thingie for active duty HF
cobbers - ask JT if he recalls that project that never quite got off
the ground <g>.)
  You listed Dee Higginbotham, Robert Maher III, Rosanne Postelnek,
Becky (Trekie) Reynard, Madgedith, D'Jinni & Nancy Welo to name a
few.

I wonder if anyone recalls "Jubal" (Bruce ?Cabot, IIRC).  I'd like
to look him up if he is still alive and kicking.  He left Prodigy
years ago; with "I'm off to surf the internet" OWTTE.  We
corresponded only briefly many years ago.  I have since lost contact
with the "Senior member" of the Forum.  That title has since been
inherited by GemStone.

Ed J
On 20 Jun 2002 06:31:30 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:

>Ed J,
>
>Yeah, I remember you, too.  And where did you come up with GXJH94A?  Man,
>I didn't even remember that!
>
>Bill in KC


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Article 21170
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:07:01 -0700
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday to the HF!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Well, it's been good to me.<g>

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:41:53 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:

>WJaKe visited a few weeks ago and we were talking about the beginnings
>of the HF on Prodigy.  We got out Angel's old yearbook and realized
>that the HF is now in its eleventh year of serious posting.  Maybe
>we're not the WELL, but that's a pretty long in Internet time, folks.
>
>Didn't Carol do the ASCII art?  where's a cake when you need one?
>
>(Searches google:)
>
>            \\\//
>             (0 0)
>  .----oOO----(_)-----------.
>  |    Happy Birthday!  |
>  |                               |
>  `------------------oOO----'
>            |__|__|
>             ||     ||
>          ooO Ooo
>
>Who knows how well that will post?  The cake didn't look so hot....
>
>Anyway, Happy Birthday to us.....
>
>JT
>


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

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Article 21171
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:13:08 -0700
Subject: ConJose
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


    I imagine we'd be going at least one day, probably Saturday.
Anybody up for a HF dinner somewhere?  I use to know San Jose (born
there), but it's been 20 years since I spent much time there.

Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

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Article 21172
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700
Subject: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.

I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
say, Stranger, writing the review for it.

The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
the story.

So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
hereabouts.

I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.



Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

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Article 21173
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:26:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


I better call dibs on Startship Troopers for Doc Obi-Wan, particularly
since we might be able to talk him out of an updated version of the
one he wrote for the Marine Corps Gazette.  Plus it's likely the only
one we could wheedle him into reviewing.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700, Geo Rule
<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:

>
>Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
>online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
>get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
>be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
>
>I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
>etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
>should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
>including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
>say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
>
>The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
>the story.
>
>So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
>hereabouts.
>
>I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
>
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21174
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:08:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Ms. Houdek just signed-up for "Revolt In 2100".

Heh.  Of course we could make a certain point by *not* having reviews
of Stranger, Troopers, and Moon  --y'know, that the guy wrote a pretty
fair story or two besides those.<g>


On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:26:55 -0700, Geo Rule
<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:

>
>I better call dibs on Startship Troopers for Doc Obi-Wan, particularly
>since we might be able to talk him out of an updated version of the
>one he wrote for the Marine Corps Gazette.  Plus it's likely the only
>one we could wheedle him into reviewing.
>
>On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700, Geo Rule
><georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
>>online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
>>get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
>>be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
>>
>>I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
>>etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
>>should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
>>including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
>>say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
>>
>>The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
>>the story.
>>
>>So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
>>hereabouts.
>>
>>I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
>>
>>
>>
>>Geo Rule
>>
>>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>>****
>>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21175
From: Dee" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:18:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Okay, Geo, so now I know how to get you to speak up.  Just talk about you
behind your back, right?  <g>

--Dee



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Article 21176
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:19:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Okay, if Deb gets Revolt in 2100, and Doc gets Starship Troopers; then I get
"We Also Walk Dogs" and a couple ~Puddin'~ stories.  (Door into Summer was
my first full length RAH story, but it's pleasure has faded.)

--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3j95hus4j6ht9q3q88roteh5gvejpjfqjf@4ax.com...
>
> Ms. Houdek just signed-up for "Revolt In 2100".
>
> Heh.  Of course we could make a certain point by *not* having reviews
> of Stranger, Troopers, and Moon  --y'know, that the guy wrote a pretty
> fair story or two besides those.<g>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:26:55 -0700, Geo Rule
> <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I better call dibs on Startship Troopers for Doc Obi-Wan, particularly
> >since we might be able to talk him out of an updated version of the
> >one he wrote for the Marine Corps Gazette.  Plus it's likely the only
> >one we could wheedle him into reviewing.
> >
> >On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700, Geo Rule
> ><georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
> >>online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
> >>get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
> >>be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
> >>
> >>I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
> >>etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
> >>should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
> >>including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
> >>say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
> >>
> >>The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
> >>the story.
> >>
> >>So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
> >>hereabouts.
> >>
> >>I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Geo Rule
> >>
> >>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> >>****
> >>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> >>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> >>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
> >
> >
> >Geo Rule
> >
> >http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> >****
> >Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> >the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> >Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
>
>
> Geo Rule
>
> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.



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Article 21177
From: Dee" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:21:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3j95hus4j6ht9q3q88roteh5gvejpjfqjf@4ax.com...
> Heh.  Of course we could make a certain point by *not* having reviews
> of Stranger, Troopers, and Moon  --y'know, that the guy wrote a pretty
> fair story or two besides those.<g>

Well, on that theory, better skip TEFL, too.  Or what about more than one,
on those--different viewpoints.

--Dee



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21178
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I think of "Jubal" now and then.  Usually around our birthday.  He was old
enough to be my grandfather, but we exchanged greetings on OUR day.

--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:0335huc76t4e4u2tsdljfdbdeo0gioeji9@4ax.com...
> Bill:
>       Back in December of 1994 (when I first found the Heinlein
> Forum) JT must have requested a listing of active members from you.
> On Jan 3rd, 1995 (5:07 AM) under "HF Roll Call"  you posted a list
> of 24 names and Prodigy ID's and signoff names.  I printed it out
> and saved it in a folder along with Bio's from Roll call (I thought
> that we were going to create a year-book thingie for active duty HF
> cobbers - ask JT if he recalls that project that never quite got off
> the ground <g>.)
>   You listed Dee Higginbotham, Robert Maher III, Rosanne Postelnek,
> Becky (Trekie) Reynard, Madgedith, D'Jinni & Nancy Welo to name a
> few.
>
> I wonder if anyone recalls "Jubal" (Bruce ?Cabot, IIRC).  I'd like
> to look him up if he is still alive and kicking.  He left Prodigy
> years ago; with "I'm off to surf the internet" OWTTE.  We
> corresponded only briefly many years ago.  I have since lost contact
> with the "Senior member" of the Forum.  That title has since been
> inherited by GemStone.
>
> Ed J
> On 20 Jun 2002 06:31:30 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Ed J,
> >
> >Yeah, I remember you, too.  And where did you come up with GXJH94A?  Man,
> >I didn't even remember that!
> >
> >Bill in KC
>



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Article 21179
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:29:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday to the HF!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>
>Well, it's been good to me.<g>

  <happy sigh> Me too. 

  Geo and my meeting corresponds to the 10th anniversary of the Forum
(give or take a few months)--that was this last April. 


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21180
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:31:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>Okay, if Deb gets Revolt in 2100, and Doc gets Starship Troopers; then I get
>"We Also Walk Dogs" and a couple ~Puddin'~ stories.  (Door into Summer was
>my first full length RAH story, but it's pleasure has faded.)

  Geo volunteered me for Revolt in 2100 because I'm going to be doing
a piece on it about the Civil War Missouri influences in the story. I
think another review would be appropriate, though, if you'd care to
volunteer.


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21181
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:29:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Yeah, we can't really skip those.

I missed it.  Which one were you volunteering for?<g>

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:21:26 -0500, "Dee" <ke4lfgDELETETHIS@amsat.org>
wrote:

>
>"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
>news:3j95hus4j6ht9q3q88roteh5gvejpjfqjf@4ax.com...
>> Heh.  Of course we could make a certain point by *not* having reviews
>> of Stranger, Troopers, and Moon  --y'know, that the guy wrote a pretty
>> fair story or two besides those.<g>
>
>Well, on that theory, better skip TEFL, too.  Or what about more than one,
>on those--different viewpoints.
>
>--Dee
>


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21182
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:30:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


'rita--Okay, "Dogs" it is.  One to a customer until everyone who wants
one gets a pick.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:19:39 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Okay, if Deb gets Revolt in 2100, and Doc gets Starship Troopers; then I get
>"We Also Walk Dogs" and a couple ~Puddin'~ stories.  (Door into Summer was
>my first full length RAH story, but it's pleasure has faded.)


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21183
From: William Dennis" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:44:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Dibs on TMIAHM.

--
Bill Dennis
http://billdennis.net



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Article 21184
From: William Dennis" 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:46:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I would love to write a review for TMIAHM.

--
Bill Dennis
http://billdennis.net



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21185
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:42:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Okay, you got it.  Right up there with 'Stroopers for thankless (read
"good luck pleasing 51% of those who will read it") tasks.  Took a
quick look at your website; I think you can do a credible job.

For those of you uncomfortable with the word "review", replace with
"synopsis", or some other word of similar meaning.  We'd like some
depth, some discussion of ideas contained therein, any insight you
might have as to its place in the pantheon of RAH and/or the history
of SF, etc.  But don't let that scare you off either; I really like
the idea of a broad cross-section of writers doing the individual
stories.  Of course I've always had a lot of faith in the denizens of
this place to deliver interesting ideas in a readable way.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:46:46 -0500, "William Dennis"
<william.dennis@insightbb.com> wrote:

>I would love to write a review for TMIAHM.


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21186
From: WDailey611@aol.com
Date: 21 Jun 2002 06:46:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Ed J,

Yeah, for a while back in the Prodigy days I was keeping a database file
of HF people.  That was on my old computer, though.

Actually, an HF Yearbook was produced for 1993.

Bill in KC

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Article 21187
From: David Silver 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:04:20 -0700
Subject: Re: ConJose
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

>     I imagine we'd be going at least one day, probably Saturday.
> Anybody up for a HF dinner somewhere?  I use to know San Jose (born
> there), but it's been 20 years since I spent much time there.


We certainly would be honored to have you and any members of the 
Heinlein Forum join us at the annual banquet dinner honoring Mr. 
Heinlein we're planning,  George, probably on Friday, August 30th. It 
may be a tad expensive, $40-50/head range; but last year in 
Philadelphia, the Haldemans, Benfords, Frederic Pohl, the Kondos, and 
others were kind enough to join us in what was an informal celebration 
at Bookbinders. Philly was a little more expensive, $70 range, so we're 
trying to keep it down. Perhaps we'll do as well with respected guests 
this year. We filmed part of it for Ginny to enjoy; and plan to do that 
again this year.

Also, perhaps, we'll have an award to present, the first Heinlein Award 
for science-fiction, that Locus announced, mentioned elsethread. Greg 
Bear, Joe Haldeman, Yoji Kondo, Elizabeth Moon, Larry Niven,
Jerry Pournelle, Spider Robinson, Stanley Schmidt and Charles
Sheffield, plus US Naval Academy English professors Herb Gilliland and 
John Hill are the committee that will advise the selection so perhaps 
some will attend. We'll try for an appropriate degree of informality.

We're looking at a couple places; the Eulipia is one that comes highly 
recommended, and we've a tentative reservation there. It's within half a 
block or so of the convention hotel, but a bit newer than 20 years ago.

Regards,


David M. Silver
Secretary-Treasurer
The Heinlein Society



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Article 21188
From: sprocketeer1@earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:33:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

> Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
> online as a Heinlein site to visit.  


Where is this page?




------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21189
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:57:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 20 Jun 2002 17:49:44 GMT, WDailey611.com wrote:

>Fader,
>
>What's the difference between old punk and new punk?  All I know is punk,
>which was back in the early '80s.  Heck, I grew up with the Beatles.
>
Bill-

Not as in music, as a noun. He's an ...


JT-
Cute,very cute. You know I will see again, at somepoint, surely you're
not counting on me forgetting.

Fader

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21190
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:00:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 21 Jun 2002 06:46:39 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:

>Actually, an HF Yearbook was produced for 1993.


I've still got mine

Fader

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21191
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:19:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Well I've been to every worldcon on the east coast since 1974, and I 
used to dress pretty outrageously, but gave up because there was always 
someone who managed to wear LESS than I. Philcon is my "never miss" 
convention, and I used to get to Balticon on a regular basis, but 
haven't in a long time. (I also used to be the person with the "Real 
Life Heinlein Female" button on)

JT wrote:

> On 20 Jun 2002 06:24:53 GMT, Wdailey611@aol.com wrote:
> 
>>JT,
>>
>>Wow, you remember.  Didn't we meet at the Reel 'n' Trigger in Missouri?
>>Or was it at MLinOR's place in Eugene, OR?
>>
>>And speaking of Bob ("Bobby") Lawson, what is he, a college graduate now?
>>
>>Bill in KC  (I'm not in Minneapolis anymore, I'm in Kansas City.)
>>
> I remember you in MO and OR.  I was at both.  Bob is, I think, going
> into his sophomore year in college.
> 
> Wendy (per your note): I'm in the suburbs of Baltimore, been here for
> around 8 years now.  I'm not a very active conventioneer; only been to
> two Balticons, one Shore Leave, and the WorldCon in Baltimore a few
> years ago.  But I don't dress up or filk, so you wouldn't have noticed
> me. ;)
> 
> JT
> (aka MGPB34A, I don't remember my MemRep or Board Leader accounts ;)
> 


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21192
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:27:08 -0400
Subject: TMIAHM was Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

NOW I remember....

I did a thing at a couple of 'cons with pretending to cast actors for 
the film version of TMIAHM - it was something we used to do on long road 
trips... It may be a fun thing to do here or on the Heinlein website...


-Wendy of NJ

Geo Rule wrote:


> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:46:46 -0500, "William Dennis"
> <william.dennis@insightbb.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I would love to write a review for TMIAHM.
>>
> 
>


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21193
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:50:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I'm waffling between Assignment in Eternity and Magic, Inc., but leaning
toward the former.  Any thoughts?

Eli, who's suddenly thinking that Between Planets might be fun, too.
--
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca



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Article 21194
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:08:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


All three are good choices. You tell us.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:50:27 -0400, Eli Hestermann
<Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu> wrote:

>I'm waffling between Assignment in Eternity and Magic, Inc., but leaning
>toward the former.  Any thoughts?
>
>Eli, who's suddenly thinking that Between Planets might be fun, too.


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21195
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:09:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:33:24 -0700, sprocketeer1@earthlink.net wrote:

>Geo Rule wrote:
>
>> Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
>> online as a Heinlein site to visit.  
>
>
>Where is this page?
>
>

http://www.dahoudek.com/heinlein/index.html

Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21196
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:50:16 -0700
Subject: Re: ConJose
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Friday would be a possiblity for us; let us know when you decide for
sure.

Soo. . .which story are you taking to help new Heinleiners learn about
the masters work?<g>  One of the lesser-known shorts?

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:04:20 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>Geo Rule wrote:
>
>>     I imagine we'd be going at least one day, probably Saturday.
>> Anybody up for a HF dinner somewhere?  I use to know San Jose (born
>> there), but it's been 20 years since I spent much time there.
>
>
>We certainly would be honored to have you and any members of the 
>Heinlein Forum join us at the annual banquet dinner honoring Mr. 
>Heinlein we're planning,  George, probably on Friday, August 30th. It 
>may be a tad expensive, $40-50/head range; but last year in 
>Philadelphia, the Haldemans, Benfords, Frederic Pohl, the Kondos, and 
>others were kind enough to join us in what was an informal celebration 
>at Bookbinders. Philly was a little more expensive, $70 range, so we're 
>trying to keep it down. Perhaps we'll do as well with respected guests 
>this year. We filmed part of it for Ginny to enjoy; and plan to do that 
>again this year.
>
>Also, perhaps, we'll have an award to present, the first Heinlein Award 
>for science-fiction, that Locus announced, mentioned elsethread. Greg 
>Bear, Joe Haldeman, Yoji Kondo, Elizabeth Moon, Larry Niven,
>Jerry Pournelle, Spider Robinson, Stanley Schmidt and Charles
>Sheffield, plus US Naval Academy English professors Herb Gilliland and 
>John Hill are the committee that will advise the selection so perhaps 
>some will attend. We'll try for an appropriate degree of informality.
>
>We're looking at a couple places; the Eulipia is one that comes highly 
>recommended, and we've a tentative reservation there. It's within half a 
>block or so of the convention hotel, but a bit newer than 20 years ago.
>
>Regards,
>
>
>David M. Silver
>Secretary-Treasurer
>The Heinlein Society
>


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
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Article 21197
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:53:21 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Having thot about it overnight, I'm going to switch to Citizen of the
Galaxy.  I wanted to leave "the big ones" for others to salivate over,
but find myself, due to our research of the last few years, with some
insight into Heinlein, Missouri, the Germans, and Slavery that I want
to share.

This returns "Our Fair City" to the common pool, tho I may pick it up
later if it doesn't go in the first round.


On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700, Geo Rule
<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:

>
>Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
>online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
>get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
>be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
>
>I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
>etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
>should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
>including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
>say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
>
>The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
>the story.
>
>So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
>hereabouts.
>
>I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
>
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21198
From: David Silver 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:20:58 -0700
Subject: Re: ConJose
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

> Friday would be a possiblity for us; let us know when you decide for
> sure.
> 


I'm delighted to hear that.


> Soo. . .which story are you taking to help new Heinleiners learn about
> the masters work?<g>  One of the lesser-known shorts?
> 


Thank you for the invitation, I didn't want to intrude and was a little 
unsure about volunteering. I wrote something about IWFNE some years 
back; it was posted briefly a couple places; it's down now; but I've 
learned a few things about RAH since; and I'd like to revise it. It's a 
little far-out. It argues there are elements of the author's 
autobiograhy allegorically deliberately expressed. Can you use that one?

If not, I'll write something 'straight' for you. Pick your work, the 
brash once young man said. ;-)

David the 'umble





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Article 21199
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 21 Jun 2002 15:38:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On *third* thot, I'm returning "Citizen of the Galaxy" to the pool (grab
it now, while it's still there!), and will take Jerry was/is a Man, where
I can make the same points without cadging one of the major titles for myself.
 Tho I'm also starting to think that I may end up having to write "Heinlein
and Slavery" as a separate article unto itself, which I've been trying hard
to avoid, because I have one or a million other things to be working on.

    But perhaps y'all can help me here.  What stories do I need to add to
this list to discuss RAH and Slavery?

Jerry was/is a Man
Citizen of the Galaxy
Farnham's Freehold
Time Enough for Love

    Looking for any others where RAH takes a shot, even in passing, at "the
peculiar institution" (although actually that is too limiting, since it
implies American South slavery).  I remember a nice anecdote he relates
in, I think, Shulman's "The Heinlein Interview" that I'll need to incorporate.

     Lastly, I haven't been keeping up with the Heinlein Society (shame
on me); anyone there done anything on RAH and Slavery and the Missouri connection?
 If so, I could possibly convince myself to avoid the topic, or link to
an article elsewhere, or see if the author is willing to let us put it on
the site.

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Article 21200
From: Dee" 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:51:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:3d134874.0@news.sff.net...
>     But perhaps y'all can help me here.  What stories do I need to add to
> this list to discuss RAH and Slavery?
>
> Jerry was/is a Man
> Citizen of the Galaxy
> Farnham's Freehold
> Time Enough for Love

Geo--

    You missed an obvious one, (Although it is so obvious that I can't
remember the name. <g>)   What is the story of the two friends who make a
bet about slavery existing or not.  The unbeliever ends up as a serf to a
Venus planter.  When he gets back home, he cannot convince the comfrortable
unbelievers he tries to tell.

--Dee



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Article 21201
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 21 Jun 2002 18:11:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Logic of Empire.  And Duh! to me.

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Article 21202
From: David Silver 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:19:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

georule@civilwarstlouis.com wrote:

> On *third* thot, I'm returning "Citizen of the Galaxy" to the pool (grab
> it now, while it's still there!), and will take Jerry was/is a Man, where
> I can make the same points without cadging one of the major titles for myself.
>  Tho I'm also starting to think that I may end up having to write "Heinlein
> and Slavery" as a separate article unto itself, which I've been trying hard
> to avoid, because I have one or a million other things to be working on.
> 
>     But perhaps y'all can help me here.  What stories do I need to add to
> this list to discuss RAH and Slavery?
> 
> Jerry was/is a Man
> Citizen of the Galaxy
> Farnham's Freehold
> Time Enough for Love
> 


Friday.

David




------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21203
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:06:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Maybe Friday, but that could be pushing things. She wasn't exactly a 
slave, but she was certainly a second class citizen...
-Wendy of NJ
(who is debating about time commitments and such)
PS I've got my senior English paper (from high school) that I wrote on 
Time Enough for Love. I wonder if I could stand to read it now, after 
almost 30 years, and then subject it to the internet population <eg>?

georule@civilwarstlouis.com wrote:

> On *third* thot, I'm returning "Citizen of the Galaxy" to the pool (grab
> it now, while it's still there!), and will take Jerry was/is a Man, where
> I can make the same points without cadging one of the major titles for myself.
>  Tho I'm also starting to think that I may end up having to write "Heinlein
> and Slavery" as a separate article unto itself, which I've been trying hard
> to avoid, because I have one or a million other things to be working on.
> 
>     But perhaps y'all can help me here.  What stories do I need to add to
> this list to discuss RAH and Slavery?
> 
> Jerry was/is a Man
> Citizen of the Galaxy
> Farnham's Freehold
> Time Enough for Love
> 
>     Looking for any others where RAH takes a shot, even in passing, at "the
> peculiar institution" (although actually that is too limiting, since it
> implies American South slavery).  I remember a nice anecdote he relates
> in, I think, Shulman's "The Heinlein Interview" that I'll need to incorporate.
> 
>      Lastly, I haven't been keeping up with the Heinlein Society (shame
> on me); anyone there done anything on RAH and Slavery and the Missouri connection?
>  If so, I could possibly convince myself to avoid the topic, or link to
> an article elsewhere, or see if the author is willing to let us put it on
> the site.
> 


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21204
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:07:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

LoL. Great minds....

David Silver wrote:


> Friday.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 


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Article 21205
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:41:14 GMT
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 21 Jun 2002 15:38:28 GMT, georule@civilwarstlouis.com wrote:
>     Lastly, I haven't been keeping up with the Heinlein Society (shame
>on me); anyone there done anything on RAH and Slavery and the Missouri connection?
> If so, I could possibly convince myself to avoid the topic, or link to
>an article elsewhere, or see if the author is willing to let us put it on
>the site.

Geo,

The Scholarship/Academic Committee chair is still "open".  Given your
er, history of eye-catching titles you would be a good one to head
that one up and get it going.

Email Bill Patterson & David Silver if you decide you're really
interested.

And congratulations to our "own" Jane Davitt who is now on the Board
of THS.  I hope I'm not letting that slip prematurely, but I don't
think it was told in confidence.  Congrats, Jane!

To all:  if you haven't yet joined I think there's still a good chance
you'd be considered a charter member.  This is the most public way you
can pay tribute to the effect RAH has had on you.

JT

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Article 21206
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:39:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Bill:  sounds like my luck, a day late and a dollar short <g>.
My first contact with P* HF was December, 1994.

Ed J

On 21 Jun 2002 06:46:39 GMT, WDailey611@aol.com wrote:

>Ed J,
>
>Yeah, for a while back in the Prodigy days I was keeping a database file
>of HF people.  That was on my old computer, though.
>
>Actually, an HF Yearbook was produced for 1993.
>
>Bill in KC


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Article 21207
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:44:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:  I remember that Jubal's name was Bruce, but I don't think
that I have his last name right (not Cabot).

Ed J


On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I think of "Jubal" now and then.  Usually around our birthday.  He was old
>enough to be my grandfather, but we exchanged greetings on OUR day.


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21208
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:59:59 -0700
Subject: Re: ConJose
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Fine with me, IWFNE is all yours.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:20:58 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>Geo Rule wrote:
>
>> Friday would be a possiblity for us; let us know when you decide for
>> sure.
>> 
>
>
>I'm delighted to hear that.
>
>
>> Soo. . .which story are you taking to help new Heinleiners learn about
>> the masters work?<g>  One of the lesser-known shorts?
>> 
>
>
>Thank you for the invitation, I didn't want to intrude and was a little 
>unsure about volunteering. I wrote something about IWFNE some years 
>back; it was posted briefly a couple places; it's down now; but I've 
>learned a few things about RAH since; and I'd like to revise it. It's a 
>little far-out. It argues there are elements of the author's 
>autobiograhy allegorically deliberately expressed. Can you use that one?
>
>If not, I'll write something 'straight' for you. Pick your work, the 
>brash once young man said. ;-)
>
>David the 'umble
>
>
>


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21209
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:08:16 -0700
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


JT:  Deb will be the charter member;  I might join on my own next
year.  Y'all might consider a "family" membership at $50 for us poor
two Heinleiner families.

Yikes; I don't have the alphabet soup after my name to go with being
"scholarship/academic" chair (even if I was sure what that entails).
David already pitched us, but even if we understood the structure and
goals of all the committees thoroughly (we don't yet, but will make a
point to figure it out), our other enthusiam takes a lot of time.  Not
saying no to anything, but certainly am not prepared to say yes
either.


On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:41:14 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:


>
>Geo,
>
>The Scholarship/Academic Committee chair is still "open".  Given your
>er, history of eye-catching titles you would be a good one to head
>that one up and get it going.
>
>Email Bill Patterson & David Silver if you decide you're really
>interested.
>
>And congratulations to our "own" Jane Davitt who is now on the Board
>of THS.  I hope I'm not letting that slip prematurely, but I don't
>think it was told in confidence.  Congrats, Jane!
>
>To all:  if you haven't yet joined I think there's still a good chance
>you'd be considered a charter member.  This is the most public way you
>can pay tribute to the effect RAH has had on you.
>
>JT


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21210
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:24:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:          
I recall from the Prodigy days that Jubal was senior to GemStone.
He might be old enough to be _your_ grandfather, but he's years
younger than my dad ;-)      That makes you a kid in comparison (no
blushing, please <G>).  

Ed J 

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I think of "Jubal" now and then.  Usually around our birthday.  He was old
>enough to be my grandfather, but we exchanged greetings on OUR day.


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21211
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:51:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I'm looking.  I used to have all that stuff on floppy and/or hard copy.

I found an old HEINLEIN FAQ from Jim Gifford dated 3May 1995.  I also found
that my original P* ID was SPJW82A and that Clay was using DQML56B back in
1995.  Bruce was "Jubal's" account name.

Remember that was one or two computers ago and who knows how many reinstalls
of bug infested Windows versions.  Plus I've changed office locations a
couple times.  (This last move I tossed a bunch of hard copy.)

--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:21i7husmp7a6grad9lgnj3vm74gsbpn7ci@4ax.com...
> `rita:  I remember that Jubal's name was Bruce, but I don't think
> that I have his last name right (not Cabot).
>
> Ed J




------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21212
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:07:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:   What became of Mannie from Wasilla, Alaska IIRC (David
McGraw)
I've got it:  "Bruce Clark" is Jubal;  now, if we can just track him
down.

Ed J


On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:51:32 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I'm looking.  I used to have all that stuff on floppy and/or hard copy.
>
>I found an old HEINLEIN FAQ from Jim Gifford dated 3May 1995.  I also found
>that my original P* ID was SPJW82A and that Clay was using DQML56B back in
>1995.  Bruce was "Jubal's" account name.
>
>Remember that was one or two computers ago and who knows how many reinstalls
>of bug infested Windows versions.  Plus I've changed office locations a
>couple times.  (This last move I tossed a bunch of hard copy.)


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21213
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:15:09 -0700
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


JT-- Send me your email address, JusTin, since you are spam-proofed.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:41:14 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:


>Geo,
>
>The Scholarship/Academic Committee chair is still "open".  Given your
>er, history of eye-catching titles you would be a good one to head
>that one up and get it going.
>
>Email Bill Patterson & David Silver if you decide you're really
>interested.
>
>And congratulations to our "own" Jane Davitt who is now on the Board
>of THS.  I hope I'm not letting that slip prematurely, but I don't
>think it was told in confidence.  Congrats, Jane!
>
>To all:  if you haven't yet joined I think there's still a good chance
>you'd be considered a charter member.  This is the most public way you
>can pay tribute to the effect RAH has had on you.
>
>JT


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21214
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:43:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Here's a partial list of the old *P* gang.  I found these ancient IDs on a
floppy.

Lorrita Morgan           \ PRODIGY:     (SPJW82A) Moi
Charles Graft            \ PRODIGY:     (XRSV68A) Big Charlie or BC
J Johnson-picket         \ PRODIGY:     (BTXV71A) Jai
John Tilden              \ PRODIGY:     (NMAC77B) JT
William Dailey           \ PRODIGY:     (GXJH94A) Bill in Mpls (Now KC)
William Keaton           \ PRODIGY:     (VDJS27A) WJaKe
Ed Johnson               \ PRODIGY:     (VVKK13A)
Greg Johnson             \ PRODIGY:     (JEAP18B) Fader
Kevin McGillicuddy       \ PRODIGY:     (NRHB44A) McKevin

The MIAs
Norma Walker             \ PRODIGY:     (ALXG69A) aka D'Jinni
Brian Scherrer           \ PRODIGY:     (MWSG76A) occasionally miscalled
Brain
David Mcgraw             \ PRODIGY:     (YAVW35A)
Thomas Warfield          \ PRODIGY:     (STJD00A) Tomstaaf1@aol.com        \
America On-Line: (Tomstaaf1
Kevin Crowley            \ PRODIGY:     (YVJM02A)
bytor                    \ PRODIGY:     (TPNC54A) Michael Calligaro        \
Internet:    (mikecal@microsoft.com)
Robert Daly              \ PRODIGY:     (LPEQ80A)
Polly Renda              \ PRODIGY:     (XENV44B)
Madge Van Ness           \ PRODIGY:     (FPNR29B) MagEdith
Rosanne Postelnek        \ PRODIGY:     (BCJC37A)
Bruce Clark \ PRODIGY: (WWXM92A) Jubal



--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:21i7husmp7a6grad9lgnj3vm74gsbpn7ci@4ax.com...
> `rita:  I remember that Jubal's name was Bruce, but I don't think
> that I have his last name right (not Cabot).
>
> Ed J
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:23:54 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
> <lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >I think of "Jubal" now and then.  Usually around our birthday.  He was
old
> >enough to be my grandfather, but we exchanged greetings on OUR day.
>



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Article 21215
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:04:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I don't know where anyone is unless they show up here.  The addresses are
seven years old.  We know how good that makes JT's, WJaKe's, BC's, bytor's,
Tomstaafl's, and even yours, Ed.

I found a floppy with 44 issues of the RAHketeer Newsletter.  Issue #1 was
dated November 13, 1993.  Many of "our" people used to contribute to it.

I also found a floppy with several biographies on it, including Jubal's.  He
was born in 1914.  He was a See Bee in WWII and a bunch of other interesting
stuff.

No File on Manny other than his old addresses, *P* and snail.

--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:rnp7huglflq38gftnthnafjgr7dd93p64t@4ax.com...
> `rita:   What became of Mannie from Wasilla, Alaska IIRC (David
> McGraw)
> I've got it:  "Bruce Clark" is Jubal;  now, if we can just track him
> down.
>
> Ed J




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Article 21216
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:36:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Bytor has agreed to do Waldo.

Just because deadlines help to focus the mind, let's set a target date
of Aug. 1 to return contributions.  Certainly anyone who gets done
before that can post it here for general admiration, or email it to
Herself at debrule@dahoudek.com  Anyone who needs an extension either
due to other committments or the complexity of their assignment can
give a holler here.



On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:19:13 -0700, Geo Rule
<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:

>
>Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
>online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
>get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
>be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
>
>I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
>etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
>should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
>including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
>say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
>
>The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
>the story.
>
>So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
>hereabouts.
>
>I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
>
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21217
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:10:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Eli--

   Provisionally have you down for Magic, Inc.  Suddenly realized that
you'd pulled a fast one and tried to grab a whole collection of short
stories with Assignment in Eternity.  But if you want 'tween planets
(a personal favorite of mine), speak up.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:50:27 -0400, Eli Hestermann
<Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu> wrote:

>I'm waffling between Assignment in Eternity and Magic, Inc., but leaning
>toward the former.  Any thoughts?
>
>Eli, who's suddenly thinking that Between Planets might be fun, too.


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21218
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:14:08 -0700
Subject: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Geo-- Jerry is/was a Man
Deb-- Revolt in 2100
Bytor-- Waldo
Doc --Starship Troopers
Bill Dennis- Moon is a Harsh Mistress
David Silver --I Will Fear No Evil
'rita --"--We Also Walk Dogs"
Dee -- She won't tell me.
JT --Still pondering apparently.
Eli --Magic, Inc


    This leaves tons of good stuff, and much of it doesn't even
require a major investment of time.  Lots of juicy short stories like
They, All You Zombies, Man Who Travelled in Elephants, Jonathan Hoag.
Not to mention great books like Citizen of the Galaxy, Glory Road,
etc.  Step right up. . .


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21219
From: WDailey@aol.com
Date: 22 Jun 2002 07:03:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Wow, a lot of familiar names there.

HF Trivia:  How many remember the "Reverend" Tabnik?

Bill in KC

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Article 21220
From: David Silver 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 01:18:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Lorrita Morgan wrote:


> 
> I found a floppy with 44 issues of the RAHketeer Newsletter.  Issue #1 was
> dated November 13, 1993.  Many of "our" people used to contribute to it.


The archivists up at the Heinlein collection at UC Santa Cruz may be 
interested in a copy of that floppy. See JT about it, if you're 
interested. He, iirc, sent off some archives of posts from here and 
s.p.robert-a-heinlein to them sometime last year or the year before.

David

 



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Article 21221
From: David Silver 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:10:15 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

George,

Your mail box at the citlink.net is full up.

Where do you want us to send drafts, etc.?

E-mail me, please.


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Article 21222
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:32:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

> Eli--
>
>    Provisionally have you down for Magic, Inc.  Suddenly realized that
> you'd pulled a fast one and tried to grab a whole collection of short
> stories with Assignment in Eternity.

I figured if Deb could have all of Revolt in 2100...[g].  Actually, I was
only thinking of the title story, where folks learn to use their inner psi
powers.

> But if you want 'tween planets (a personal favorite of mine), speak up.

Still mulling.  No hoohoo if someone else snags it before I decide.

--
Eli V. Hestermann
ehestermann@tmlp.com
"Vita brevis est, ars longa" - Seneca



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Article 21223
From: Dee" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:16:46 -0500
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:ii48husogr87cm5021dqeumka67tm9mptk@4ax.com...
<snip>
> Dee -- She won't tell me.
<snip>

Geo--
    She won't even tell you yet, "whether", much less "which one".  ;-)
Just got another "assignment" from a friend involving a piano and a church
choir, neither of which I have had much experience with in some 30 years,
and never together.)  Gotta think about what I might have useful to say
about anything, as well as that August deadline.
    However, I am not ignoring your suggestion, either.  I think it's a
great idea, and probably not fair for me to try to get by with reaping the
benefits of reading other contributions without making one.  OTOH, those
other contributions may end up a more valuable contribution than mine.  I
especially enjoy reading posts form those like you and David Silver (among
many others) with a strong background in history.
    So, if I understand correctly, you are visualizing something more in
depth than a mere synopsis, but more casual than a learned treatise, right?
Who is the primary intended reader?  The newcomer to RAH who wants to find
out a littlele about what to expect, or the "old hand" who wnats to explore
more deeply?  My first rule of writing is to ask myself, "Why am I writing
this, and who is going to read it?"  [Thanks to Justice Hugh Maddox, Ala. S.
Ct. and a former journalist.]
    Another idea, would pprobably take me longer than until August, because
I'll have to do some reviewing to identify the stories beforw I can begin
writing.  What about an article linking the RAH stories with a Ham Radio
connection?  (David Silver will know why this comes to mind--it might help
with another Heinlein project, as well.)  If it turns out okay, maybe the
Amateur Radio Relay League would post a link to Deb's page, and possibly
reach a potential new Heinlein audience.  They already publicize some
fiction that is Ham-related, especially for young people.
--Dee



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Article 21224
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:16:29 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Dee--

     I would say the *primary* intended reader is the newcomer to RAH.
But if you can serve their needs and still say something that makes
the old hand go "hmm.  Interesting", that would be all gravy.

     Sure, we'll accept the ham radio piece in lieu of a
review/synopsis.  Or in addition to.<g>

       My thinking on the timing/effort problem was that this is
selectable pretty much by the story you select to handle.  Many of the
shorts you could probably riff out an entirely appropriate piece in an
hour or two.  Many of the shorts you can't.  And if you can do Moon,
Stranger, or Troopers in an hour or two. . . well, then you are a
better man than me, Gunga Din.<g>  

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:16:46 -0500, "Dee" <ke4lfgDELETETHIS@amsat.org>
wrote:

>
>"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ii48husogr87cm5021dqeumka67tm9mptk@4ax.com...
><snip>
>> Dee -- She won't tell me.
><snip>
>
>Geo--
>    She won't even tell you yet, "whether", much less "which one".  ;-)
>Just got another "assignment" from a friend involving a piano and a church
>choir, neither of which I have had much experience with in some 30 years,
>and never together.)  Gotta think about what I might have useful to say
>about anything, as well as that August deadline.
>    However, I am not ignoring your suggestion, either.  I think it's a
>great idea, and probably not fair for me to try to get by with reaping the
>benefits of reading other contributions without making one.  OTOH, those
>other contributions may end up a more valuable contribution than mine.  I
>especially enjoy reading posts form those like you and David Silver (among
>many others) with a strong background in history.
>    So, if I understand correctly, you are visualizing something more in
>depth than a mere synopsis, but more casual than a learned treatise, right?
>Who is the primary intended reader?  The newcomer to RAH who wants to find
>out a littlele about what to expect, or the "old hand" who wnats to explore
>more deeply?  My first rule of writing is to ask myself, "Why am I writing
>this, and who is going to read it?"  [Thanks to Justice Hugh Maddox, Ala. S.
>Ct. and a former journalist.]
>    Another idea, would pprobably take me longer than until August, because
>I'll have to do some reviewing to identify the stories beforw I can begin
>writing.  What about an article linking the RAH stories with a Ham Radio
>connection?  (David Silver will know why this comes to mind--it might help
>with another Heinlein project, as well.)  If it turns out okay, maybe the
>Amateur Radio Relay League would post a link to Deb's page, and possibly
>reach a potential new Heinlein audience.  They already publicize some
>fiction that is Ham-related, especially for young people.
>--Dee
>


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21225
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:18:19 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Thanks for mentioning that.  Haven't used that email address in ages,
so anything sent there in the last few days I have *not* seen.

Actual email address is georule@civilwarstlouis.com  Contributions can
also be sent to debrule@dahoudek.com


On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:10:15 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>George,
>
>Your mail box at the citlink.net is full up.
>
>Where do you want us to send drafts, etc.?
>
>E-mail me, please.


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21226
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:02:40 -0400
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

we did Troopers and Forever War together for a college-level SF english 
class. (Taught by Judith Moffett, who later went on to win the John W. 
Cambpell award at Nolacon II? for her book "Penterra" and the Hefn stories)
-W ofNJ

Geo Rule wrote:

> Dee--
> 
>      I would say the *primary* intended reader is the newcomer to RAH.
> But if you can serve their needs and still say something that makes
> the old hand go "hmm.  Interesting", that would be all gravy.
> 
>      Sure, we'll accept the ham radio piece in lieu of a
> review/synopsis.  Or in addition to.<g>
> 
>        My thinking on the timing/effort problem was that this is
> selectable pretty much by the story you select to handle.  Many of the
> shorts you could probably riff out an entirely appropriate piece in an
> hour or two.  Many of the shorts you can't.  And if you can do Moon,
> Stranger, or Troopers in an hour or two. . . well, then you are a
> better man than me, Gunga Din.<g>  
> 
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:16:46 -0500, "Dee" <ke4lfgDELETETHIS@amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:ii48husogr87cm5021dqeumka67tm9mptk@4ax.com...
>><snip>
>>
>>>Dee -- She won't tell me.
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Geo--
>>   She won't even tell you yet, "whether", much less "which one".  ;-)
>>Just got another "assignment" from a friend involving a piano and a church
>>choir, neither of which I have had much experience with in some 30 years,
>>and never together.)  Gotta think about what I might have useful to say
>>about anything, as well as that August deadline.
>>   However, I am not ignoring your suggestion, either.  I think it's a
>>great idea, and probably not fair for me to try to get by with reaping the
>>benefits of reading other contributions without making one.  OTOH, those
>>other contributions may end up a more valuable contribution than mine.  I
>>especially enjoy reading posts form those like you and David Silver (among
>>many others) with a strong background in history.
>>   So, if I understand correctly, you are visualizing something more in
>>depth than a mere synopsis, but more casual than a learned treatise, right?
>>Who is the primary intended reader?  The newcomer to RAH who wants to find
>>out a littlele about what to expect, or the "old hand" who wnats to explore
>>more deeply?  My first rule of writing is to ask myself, "Why am I writing
>>this, and who is going to read it?"  [Thanks to Justice Hugh Maddox, Ala. S.
>>Ct. and a former journalist.]
>>   Another idea, would pprobably take me longer than until August, because
>>I'll have to do some reviewing to identify the stories beforw I can begin
>>writing.  What about an article linking the RAH stories with a Ham Radio
>>connection?  (David Silver will know why this comes to mind--it might help
>>with another Heinlein project, as well.)  If it turns out okay, maybe the
>>Amateur Radio Relay League would post a link to Deb's page, and possibly
>>reach a potential new Heinlein audience.  They already publicize some
>>fiction that is Ham-related, especially for young people.
>>--Dee
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Geo Rule
> 
> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.
> 


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Article 21227
From: JT@sff.net (JT)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:24:21 GMT
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:15:09 -0700, Geo Rule <georule@citlink.net>
wrote:

Sorry about that.  I've been accused of being overcautious, but this
message should get to you and back to me properly.  And if you want to
add it someplace it's JT@sff.net

JT
>
>JT-- Send me your email address, JusTin, since you are spam-proofed.
>
>On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:41:14 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:
>
>
>>Geo,
>>
>>The Scholarship/Academic Committee chair is still "open".  Given your
>>er, history of eye-catching titles you would be a good one to head
>>that one up and get it going.
>>
>>Email Bill Patterson & David Silver if you decide you're really
>>interested.
>>
>>And congratulations to our "own" Jane Davitt who is now on the Board
>>of THS.  I hope I'm not letting that slip prematurely, but I don't
>>think it was told in confidence.  Congrats, Jane!
>>
>>To all:  if you haven't yet joined I think there's still a good chance
>>you'd be considered a charter member.  This is the most public way you
>>can pay tribute to the effect RAH has had on you.
>>
>>JT
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
>Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
>the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.


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Article 21228
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:31:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 22 Jun 2002 07:03:26 GMT, WDailey@aol.com wrote:

>Wow, a lot of familiar names there.
>
>HF Trivia:  How many remember the "Reverend" Tabnik?
>
>Bill in KC
<G> (Raises Hand.)
That was, actually, the most interesting discussion I ever took part
in.  An interesting study of manipulation and scruples.  I wish I had
the thread.  I think only BC or Tomstaafl might have going back that
far.

JT

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Article 21229
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:31:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 01:18:55 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>Lorrita Morgan wrote:
>
>
>> 
>> I found a floppy with 44 issues of the RAHketeer Newsletter.  Issue #1 was
>> dated November 13, 1993.  Many of "our" people used to contribute to it.
>
>
>The archivists up at the Heinlein collection at UC Santa Cruz may be 
>interested in a copy of that floppy. See JT about it, if you're 
>interested. He, iirc, sent off some archives of posts from here and 
>s.p.robert-a-heinlein to them sometime last year or the year before.
>
>David
>
Shoot, if I did I don't remember doing it.  I'd bet on Geo Rule or Jim
Gifford.

'rita, I am interested in the newsletters, though.  If it fit on a
floppy it should be small enough to zip them all up and mail 'em to
me.  I'll put them on the HF website.

I know what you mean about losing stuff in computer moves.  I lost
most of my personal correspondence including all the old HF material
two computers ago--that was the place all the bad sectors on the hard
drive were, and that was before I started routinely backing up
everything.  Now all I have of the early HF is a few printouts that I
had stuck in my copy of the '93 Yearbook.

JT

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Article 21230
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:31:14 GMT
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:14:08 -0700, Geo Rule <georule@citlink.net>
wrote:

>JT --Still pondering apparently.

Oh, I'm not committing to anything for the rest of the year if it
means actually producing something. ;)  Work is crazy, and our most
important due date is 7/24, around when Baby Boy T#2 arrives.  I
expect to have no free time for anything for around two months after
that blessed event.

JT

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Article 21231
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:33:08 GMT
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:24:21 GMT, JT@sff.net (JT) wrote:
>Sorry about that.  I've been accused of being overcautious, but this
>message should get to you and back to me properly.  And if you want to
>add it someplace it's JT@sff.net
>
>JT

Arrgh. And that was supposed to be by email.  Well, I guess now I'll
see how many malicious 'bots troll news.sff.net for email addresses.
;)

JT

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Article 21232
From: Dee" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:34:35 -0500
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo  wrote:
>      Sure, we'll accept the ham radio piece in lieu of a
> review/synopsis.  Or in addition to.<g>

Geo--
    How about I start with "Searchlight" and see where it takes me.  Maybe I
will build up a set of separate synopses/reviews then tie it up with a
Ham-linked commentary.  Or maybe I will only get the first one done.  No
promises beyond "Searchlight", yet.  One step at the time.  Suits?
--Dee




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Article 21233
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:30:48 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Suits!

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:34:35 -0500, "Dee" <ke4lfgDELETETHIS@amsat.org>
wrote:

>Geo  wrote:
>>      Sure, we'll accept the ham radio piece in lieu of a
>> review/synopsis.  Or in addition to.<g>
>
>Geo--
>    How about I start with "Searchlight" and see where it takes me.  Maybe I
>will build up a set of separate synopses/reviews then tie it up with a
>Ham-linked commentary.  Or maybe I will only get the first one done.  No
>promises beyond "Searchlight", yet.  One step at the time.  Suits?
>--Dee
>
>


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21234
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:05:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


    Not eye, said the blind-man.  And I doubt that Gifford would; tho
I could be wrong.

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:31:14 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:


>>
>Shoot, if I did I don't remember doing it.  I'd bet on Geo Rule or Jim
>Gifford.
>
>'rita, I am interested in the newsletters, though.  If it fit on a
>floppy it should be small enough to zip them all up and mail 'em to
>me.  I'll put them on the HF website.
>
>I know what you mean about losing stuff in computer moves.  I lost
>most of my personal correspondence including all the old HF material
>two computers ago--that was the place all the bad sectors on the hard
>drive were, and that was before I started routinely backing up
>everything.  Now all I have of the early HF is a few printouts that I
>had stuck in my copy of the '93 Yearbook.
>
>JT


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21235
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:11:13 GMT
Subject: Re: The Heinlein Society, and Scholarship
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>Arrgh. And that was supposed to be by email.  Well, I guess now I'll
>see how many malicious 'bots troll news.sff.net for email addresses.

  You mean you don't enjoy getting dozens of emails per day trying to
refinance your house, save the economy of [minor foreign country] and
enhance your carnal life??


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21236
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:16:05 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


One of the things I think we will add at the bottom of each of these
is something of the kind "And if you like this one, you may very well
also like. . ." and include other RAH stories with link to the review
for those (or possibly even other authors) that have similar themes or
styles.  So if for your story you have any suggestions to make along
those lines, please do.  For instance, I would probably cross-link
They and All You Zombies together.


On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:14:08 -0700, Geo Rule <georule@citlink.net>
wrote:

>
>Geo-- Jerry is/was a Man
>Deb-- Revolt in 2100
>Bytor-- Waldo
>Doc --Starship Troopers
>Bill Dennis- Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>David Silver --I Will Fear No Evil
>'rita --"--We Also Walk Dogs"
>Dee -- She won't tell me.
>JT --Still pondering apparently.
>Eli --Magic, Inc
>
>
>    This leaves tons of good stuff, and much of it doesn't even
>require a major investment of time.  Lots of juicy short stories like
>They, All You Zombies, Man Who Travelled in Elephants, Jonathan Hoag.
>Not to mention great books like Citizen of the Galaxy, Glory Road,
>etc.  Step right up. . .
>
>
>Geo Rule
>
>www.civilwarstlouis.com
>****
>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
>Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
>the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

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Article 21237
From: noone" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:53:05 -0400
Subject: something for free, but not lunch
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

i've been more a lurker than a contributor here but amist my junk i've just
come across a clipping from  a "cult movies" publication titled "the
starship troopers symposium", commentary on the book vs. the movie by brad
linaweaver, 4sj ackerman, william alan ritch, george mulligan, j. neil
schulman, david t. lindsay and daffydd ap hugh. and including a couple of
newsprint halftone photos from the movie. i'd like to offer it, free for the
asking, to someone who is collecting/archiving such things as, if i keep it,
it will likely wind up lost or destroyed (e.g. i found it in the upper
pocket of a field jacket i hadn't worn for a year or two!) if anyone is
interested please e-mail me at gunnera4@yahoo.com and we'll arrange to snail
mail it to you.
"gunner"



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Article 21238
From: Robert Slater" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 16:26:55 -0700
Subject: #3?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hey Folks,
It's only been a few months, I think, though it may have been six, but I do
read up almost weekly. Hey, Bytor and Bill. Welcome back.  Writing any
Bytor?
SIFI Rob



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Article 21239
From: David Silver 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

> Deb was flattered when her Heinlein page was linked from Asimov's
> online as a Heinlein site to visit.  It's nice, but if we're going to
> get some "who's this Heinlein guy?" visitors, I was thinking it would
> be nice if there was more there about the actual stories.
> 
> I think it would be cool to have a page for every story (novel, short,
> etc) with a review written by a Heinleiner.  The only criteria is you
> should be a fan of that story.  You can say what you like about it,
> including it's weaknesses, but we don't want someone who dislikes,
> say, Stranger, writing the review for it.
> 
> The idea would be introductory  --assume the reader has never heard of
> the story.
> 
> So, who wants what?  Step right up  --I know there's lots of talent
> hereabouts.
> 
> I might take "Our Fair City"; a guilty pleasure.
> 
> 
> 
> Geo Rule
> 
> http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
> 

George, may I have your permission to repost this post on 
alt.fan.heinlien? In our RAH-AIM chat today, a number of folk evidenced 
an interest in writing an essay to help fill in the blanks left by the 
denizens of this forum, and they asked me to ask you.


David


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Article 21240
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

It zips at 168K.  Tom (or I) was using .nsl as a file extension for most of
the newsletters.  Word 2K opens them just fine.  I would guess they are DOS
..txt files given their age.  They might be Win 3.x .txt or .wri or even
..rtf.

Anyone else interested?  Not like I don't have anything to do with a baby,
library inventory, and trying to get contest prizes organized and mailed
out.  (Spent 4 hours today updating library files and still have a bunch to
do before we start inventory on Monday morning.)

BTW, did I miss your announcement of future Tilden son #2?  or are you
trying to slip that one by us?  Anyway, Daniel needs a brother.  Congrats!
Hope everyone is very, very healthy.

--
Later,

`rita
http://pages.prodigy.net/lorrita-m/index.html
"JT" <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote in message
news:3d14bf29.9168234@news.sff.net...
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 01:18:55 -0700, David Silver
> <ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Lorrita Morgan wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I found a floppy with 44 issues of the RAHketeer Newsletter.  Issue #1
was
> >> dated November 13, 1993.  Many of "our" people used to contribute to
it.
> >
> >
> >The archivists up at the Heinlein collection at UC Santa Cruz may be
> >interested in a copy of that floppy. See JT about it, if you're
> >interested. He, iirc, sent off some archives of posts from here and
> >s.p.robert-a-heinlein to them sometime last year or the year before.
> >
> >David
> >
> Shoot, if I did I don't remember doing it.  I'd bet on Geo Rule or Jim
> Gifford.
>
> 'rita, I am interested in the newsletters, though.  If it fit on a
> floppy it should be small enough to zip them all up and mail 'em to
> me.  I'll put them on the HF website.
>
> I know what you mean about losing stuff in computer moves.  I lost
> most of my personal correspondence including all the old HF material
> two computers ago--that was the place all the bad sectors on the hard
> drive were, and that was before I started routinely backing up
> everything.  Now all I have of the early HF is a few printouts that I
> had stuck in my copy of the '93 Yearbook.
>
> JT
>



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21241
From: David Silver 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:38:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Geo Rule wrote:

>     Not eye, said the blind-man.  And I doubt that Gifford would; tho
> I could be wrong.
> 
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:31:14 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>Shoot, if I did I don't remember doing it.  I'd bet on Geo Rule or Jim
>>Gifford.
>>
>>'rita, I am interested in the newsletters, though.  If it fit on a
>>floppy it should be small enough to zip them all up and mail 'em to
>>me.  I'll put them on the HF website.
>>
>>I know what you mean about losing stuff in computer moves.  I lost
>>most of my personal correspondence including all the old HF material
>>two computers ago--that was the place all the bad sectors on the hard
>>drive were, and that was before I started routinely backing up
>>everything.  Now all I have of the early HF is a few printouts that I
>>had stuck in my copy of the '93 Yearbook.
>>
>>JT
>>
> 
> 
> Geo Rule



Well, then, let me make it clear. The archivists at the Heinlein 
Collection in UC Santa Cruz are interested in internet archives 
regarding discussions concerning Heinlein writings. They would be 
interested in copies of newwgroups, etc., discussing the same. They have 
AOL archives from our inception, and, I think, would love to have the 
earlier archives from you folks.


David




------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21242
From: James Hunt" 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:30:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

    Just wanted to say that I'm still alive and kicking.  (Though I walk
where I used to run).   Had a heart bypass back in December (quadruple), but
am well over that.  I work out three times a week and walk in between.
    Have been getting a new computer (Dell 1.7 GHz) set up.  This week we
got everything networked: the Dell, the old 200 MHz desktop which I think
I'll name The Lummox, plus mine and the wife's laptops.  Now they can share
files, two printers and a cable modem.  It took a while, but everything
seems to be working fairly smoothly.
    I still read the Heinlein Forum daily.  It's good to see "old" friends
back again.

GemStone   [James Stone Hunt]



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21243
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:07:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


David--

     By all means.  The only limitation other than that guidance
already given is that the idea is to fill out the entire published
works.  I can imagine eventually having more than one take on a given
story, but that is far in the future.  Also, one to a customer until
it is clear that we've run out of options and need to make another
round.  If we wanted it to be just one or two voices then Deb and I
could have swatted them out ourself.

    
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:24 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>
>George, may I have your permission to repost this post on 
>alt.fan.heinlien? In our RAH-AIM chat today, a number of folk evidenced 
>an interest in writing an essay to help fill in the blanks left by the 
>denizens of this forum, and they asked me to ask you.
>
>
>David


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21244
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:13:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Fine with me; we (Deb and I) don't have (I don't think) copies of the
newsletters.  Between us and JT or WJaKe we could probably provide a
copied complete set of The Galactic Citizen.  We wouldn't give our
originals up, but we could certainly run them thru a copier.



On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:38:49 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:



>
>
>Well, then, let me make it clear. The archivists at the Heinlein 
>Collection in UC Santa Cruz are interested in internet archives 
>regarding discussions concerning Heinlein writings. They would be 
>interested in copies of newwgroups, etc., discussing the same. They have 
>AOL archives from our inception, and, I think, would love to have the 
>earlier archives from you folks.
>
>
>David
>
>


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21245
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:28:47 -0700
Subject: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


   Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
the best I've ever seen.



Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21246
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:22:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:24 -0700, David Silver
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

David--

    Btw, please, "Geo".  If you just gotta you can make it "Geo." and
then I can read it "Geo" and you can read it "George" and we can both
be happy.

    Can you ask in one of those groups if we know who controls Tom
Perry's estate?  I'd sure love to have the right to use "Who Broke the
Chronovitameter" from Monad #2 for Life-Line.  Tom was very nice to me
back in the GEnie days, even tho we didn't agree on many issues.

>
>George, may I have your permission to repost this post on 
>alt.fan.heinlien? In our RAH-AIM chat today, a number of folk evidenced 
>an interest in writing an essay to help fill in the blanks left by the 
>denizens of this forum, and they asked me to ask you.
>
>
>David


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21247
From: Kristina Forsyth" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Funny, I always read Geo as "Geoffrey"...

T

"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:24qahucm0mihhleqs2fvtt1n4cg1va1a5p@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:24 -0700, David Silver
> <ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> David--
>
>     Btw, please, "Geo".  If you just gotta you can make it "Geo." and
> then I can read it "Geo" and you can read it "George" and we can both
> be happy.
>
>     Can you ask in one of those groups if we know who controls Tom
> Perry's estate?  I'd sure love to have the right to use "Who Broke the
> Chronovitameter" from Monad #2 for Life-Line.  Tom was very nice to me
> back in the GEnie days, even tho we didn't agree on many issues.
>
> >
> >George, may I have your permission to repost this post on
> >alt.fan.heinlien? In our RAH-AIM chat today, a number of folk evidenced
> >an interest in writing an essay to help fill in the blanks left by the
> >denizens of this forum, and they asked me to ask you.
> >
> >
> >David
>
>
> Geo Rule
>
> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.
>



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21248
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:36:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Is that the film centered around a child living on the space station and 
her dad had to land on either a comet or asteroid? Or is this a new film?

Which Imax is it in? (I possibly saw it several years ago in NYC)
-Wendy of NJ

Geo Rule wrote:

>    Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
> the best I've ever seen.
> 
> 
> 
> Geo Rule
> 
> http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
> 


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21249
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 08:57:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


No, it's brand new.  Only been out for a couple months.  Filmed on the
International Space Station by the astronauts as they have been
constructing it.  Just spectacular.

Best. Geo

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:36:50 -0400, Voxwoman <voxwoman@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Is that the film centered around a child living on the space station and 
>her dad had to land on either a comet or asteroid? Or is this a new film?
>
>Which Imax is it in? (I possibly saw it several years ago in NYC)
>-Wendy of NJ
>
>Geo Rule wrote:
>
>>    Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
>> the best I've ever seen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Geo Rule
>> 
>> http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>> ****
>> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>> Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
>> 


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21250
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 08:58:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


     That's interesting.  I've been known on occasion to use "Geoff"
as a nom de 'net.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
wrote:

>Funny, I always read Geo as "Geoffrey"...
>


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21251
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:54:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:   Wow, I didn't know that Jubal was from 1914!  I thought
that he was maybe a few years older than GemStone (1931, PHD minus
10y).  If he is still out there surfing the `net, he would be just
past 88 y.o. (I certainly hope so.)
  If Bruce was in the Construction Battalions (CB's) he must have
had some interesting WW2 stories to tell.

Ed J

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:04:36 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I don't know where anyone is unless they show up here.  The addresses are
>seven years old.  We know how good that makes JT's, WJaKe's, BC's, bytor's,
>Tomstaafl's, and even yours, Ed.
>
>I found a floppy with 44 issues of the RAHketeer Newsletter.  Issue #1 was
>dated November 13, 1993.  Many of "our" people used to contribute to it.
>
>I also found a floppy with several biographies on it, including Jubal's.  He
>was born in 1914.  He was a See Bee in WWII and a bunch of other interesting
>stuff.
>
>No File on Manny other than his old addresses, *P* and snail.


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21252
From: Bill Dauphin 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:38:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 6/21/02 11:43 PM, in article 3d13f2bd.0@news.sff.net, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Here's a partial list of the old *P* gang.  I found these ancient IDs on a
> floppy.

<list NOT including my name snipped>

Hey, I was there too! Though a search of P* Ids might not turn me up, as I
always used my Dad's (remember, my original signoff, which eventually
morphed into JovBill, was "Bill, Son of Vern in Jupiter"). Frankly, I don't
recall my old ID, but I'm sure I'd recognize it if I saw it. It's listed in
the RAHketeer Yearbook, which I also still have (though it's packed away
somewhere at the moment.

-JovBill


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21253
From: Bill Dauphin 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:48:13 -0400
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 6/22/02 2:14 AM, in article ii48husogr87cm5021dqeumka67tm9mptk@4ax.com,
"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Geo-- Jerry is/was a Man
> Deb-- Revolt in 2100
> Bytor-- Waldo
> Doc --Starship Troopers
> Bill Dennis- Moon is a Harsh Mistress
> David Silver --I Will Fear No Evil
> 'rita --"--We Also Walk Dogs"
> Dee -- She won't tell me.
> JT --Still pondering apparently.
> Eli --Magic, Inc
> 
> 
>   This leaves tons of good stuff, and much of it doesn't even
> require a major investment of time.

I read through all the rest of the posts, and as of Sunday afternoon, it
looks like nobody's claimed _Door Into Summer_, which is one of my old
faves. I'll take that one. Surprised nobody's taken _Double Star_ yet; that
would've been my second choice.

-JovBill


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21254
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:04:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:  I have added a few to your list.

Ed J

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:43:31 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Here's a partial list of the old *P* gang.  I found these ancient IDs on a
>floppy.
>
>Lorrita Morgan           \ PRODIGY:     (SPJW82A) Moi
>Charles Graft            \ PRODIGY:     (XRSV68A) Big Charlie or BC
>J Johnson-picket         \ PRODIGY:     (BTXV71A) Jai
>John Tilden              \ PRODIGY:     (NMAC77B) JT     
>William Dailey           \ PRODIGY:     (GXJH94A) Bill in Mpls (Now KC)
>William Keaton           \ PRODIGY:     (VDJS27A) WJaKe
>Ed Johnson               \ PRODIGY:     (VVKK13A)
>Greg Johnson             \ PRODIGY:     (JEAP18B) Fader
>Kevin McGillicuddy       \ PRODIGY:     (NRHB44A) McKevin
       also:    Geo (George Rule)   ( VHWC70A )
       Nancy Halmer ( UAFW25A )  Deege
       Audrey ( BDVT98A )
       James Hunt ( PMXP46A ) Jim Stone
       D Higgenbotham ( DBCH13B )  Dee,  Dee2
       
>
>The MIAs
>Norma Walker             \ PRODIGY:     (ALXG69A) aka D'Jinni
>Brian Scherrer           \ PRODIGY:     (MWSG76A) occasionally miscalled
>Brain
>David Mcgraw             \ PRODIGY:     (YAVW35A)
>Thomas Warfield          \ PRODIGY:     (STJD00A) Tomstaaf1@aol.com        \
>America On-Line: (Tomstaaf1
>Kevin Crowley            \ PRODIGY:     (YVJM02A)
>bytor                    \ PRODIGY:     (TPNC54A) Michael Calligaro        \
>Internet:    (mikecal@microsoft.com)
>Robert Daly              \ PRODIGY:     (LPEQ80A)
>Polly Renda              \ PRODIGY:     (XENV44B)
>Madge Van Ness           \ PRODIGY:     (FPNR29B) MagEdith
>Rosanne Postelnek        \ PRODIGY:     (BCJC37A)
>Bruce Clark \ PRODIGY: (WWXM92A) Jubal
        also: Doc (Chuck Coffin)  ( JN4J01A )
                Becky Reynard ( MBBF98A )
                Nancy Welo ( SGVC66A )
                Robert Maher III ( KTWW12A )  Rob3



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21255
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:09:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Jim:   There must be something in the air <g>.  Old cobbers
returning after long absences; I think it's a good sign. ( A 'sign'
of what, I don't know. I'm just optimistic that it is a good sign
<bwg> ).
 I am having trouble getting only two computers to talk to each
other.  One is a Win98 SE and the new one is on Win XP pro.  I was
hoping the share my cable modem between the two of them.

Ed J

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:30:17 -0500, "James Hunt" <jhunt@txcyber.com>
wrote:

>    Just wanted to say that I'm still alive and kicking.  (Though I walk
>where I used to run).   Had a heart bypass back in December (quadruple), but
>am well over that.  I work out three times a week and walk in between.
>    Have been getting a new computer (Dell 1.7 GHz) set up.  This week we
>got everything networked: the Dell, the old 200 MHz desktop which I think
>I'll name The Lummox, plus mine and the wife's laptops.  Now they can share
>files, two printers and a cable modem.  It took a while, but everything
>seems to be working fairly smoothly.
>    I still read the Heinlein Forum daily.  It's good to see "old" friends
>back again.
>
>GemStone   [James Stone Hunt]
>


------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21256
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:31:30 -0700
Subject: Re: The Current Heinlein Story Assignments
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


JovBill--

You got it.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:48:13 -0400, Bill Dauphin
<dauphinb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On 6/22/02 2:14 AM, in article ii48husogr87cm5021dqeumka67tm9mptk@4ax.com,
>"Geo Rule" <georule@citlink.net> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Geo-- Jerry is/was a Man
>> Deb-- Revolt in 2100
>> Bytor-- Waldo
>> Doc --Starship Troopers
>> Bill Dennis- Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>> David Silver --I Will Fear No Evil
>> 'rita --"--We Also Walk Dogs"
>> Dee -- She won't tell me.
>> JT --Still pondering apparently.
>> Eli --Magic, Inc
>> 
>> 
>>   This leaves tons of good stuff, and much of it doesn't even
>> require a major investment of time.
>
>I read through all the rest of the posts, and as of Sunday afternoon, it
>looks like nobody's claimed _Door Into Summer_, which is one of my old
>faves. I'll take that one. Surprised nobody's taken _Double Star_ yet; that
>would've been my second choice.
>
>-JovBill


Geo Rule

www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21257
From: Kristina Forsyth" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:04:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Should I be thinking of you as Geo-as-in-Theo?

T

"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:jvrbhugahn5ej25avc7d6vi1mo1klo3f8n@4ax.com...
>
>      That's interesting.  I've been known on occasion to use "Geoff"
> as a nom de 'net.
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Funny, I always read Geo as "Geoffrey"...
> >
>
>
> Geo Rule
>
> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.



------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21258
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:54:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


You mean as to pronunciation?  If so, yes.  Or sounds just like
"G.O.", which causes confusion since I use "G.E. Rule" for writings.
If you mean something else, it was a clean miss as to me getting it.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:04:05 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
wrote:

>Should I be thinking of you as Geo-as-in-Theo?
>
>T
>
>"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
>news:jvrbhugahn5ej25avc7d6vi1mo1klo3f8n@4ax.com...
>>
>>      That's interesting.  I've been known on occasion to use "Geoff"
>> as a nom de 'net.
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Funny, I always read Geo as "Geoffrey"...
>> >
>>
>>
>> Geo Rule
>>
>> www.civilwarstlouis.com
>> ****
>> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
>> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
>> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.
>


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

------------------------------------------------------------
Article 21259
From: Kristina Forsyth" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:51:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Pronunciation.  I promise not to call you Geo-as-in-Theo.

T

"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:jm9chusbahd37e46pbtkm10k5f34gsmbod@4ax.com...
>
> You mean as to pronunciation?  If so, yes.  Or sounds just like
> "G.O.", which causes confusion since I use "G.E. Rule" for writings.
> If you mean something else, it was a clean miss as to me getting it.
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:04:05 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Should I be thinking of you as Geo-as-in-Theo?
> >
> >T
> >
> >"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
> >news:jvrbhugahn5ej25avc7d6vi1mo1klo3f8n@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>      That's interesting.  I've been known on occasion to use "Geoff"
> >> as a nom de 'net.
> >>
> >> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:46:25 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Funny, I always read Geo as "Geoffrey"...
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Geo Rule
> >>
> >> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> >> ****
> >> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> >> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> >> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> >> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.
> >
>
>
> Geo Rule
>
> http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
>



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Article 21260
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:01:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:04:20 -0400, Ed Johnson
<eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
>`rita:  I have added a few to your list.
>
>Ed J
>
Ed, the yearbook has several pages of $P IDs.  What surprised me the
last time I looked through it was not how many drew a complete blank
but how many actually still drop in once a year or so (or more)!

JT

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Article 21261
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:01:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:42 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Anyone else interested?  

Hold off asking 'rita, folks.  I hope to have them freely available on
the web pretty soon.

>BTW, did I miss your announcement of future Tilden son #2?  or are you
>trying to slip that one by us?  Anyway, Daniel needs a brother.  Congrats!
>Hope everyone is very, very healthy.
>
I did announce it about 7 months ago but I have been low-key about
updates.  I guess I'm just superstitious.  Things seem to be normal
which unfortunately means that Christine will spend this last month
with interrupted sleep and no position, sitting or laying, that is
comfortable for more than around 5 minutes.

But we are starting to get excited, even though we have no idea what
we've gotten ourselves into. <VBG>

JT

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Article 21262
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:01:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Hello again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:09:25 -0400, Ed Johnson
<eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
> I am having trouble getting only two computers to talk to each
>other.  One is a Win98 SE and the new one is on Win XP pro.  I was
>hoping the share my cable modem between the two of them.
>
Heck, Ed, that should be a fairly simple Internet Connection Sharing
setup.  Post what you've done (and what hasn't worked) in a new note
and us helpful folk will pick it apart, er, I mean, walk you through
it. ;)

JT

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Article 21263
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:01:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:04:05 -0400, "Kristina Forsyth" <kgf@sff.net>
wrote:

>Should I be thinking of you as Geo-as-in-Theo?
>
>T
More like Geo as in "Neo".  <G>  I was convinced for quite a long time
that Geo was the 'net's first virtual construct, until Deb got him
offline long enough to marry him. <G, D, & R!>

JT

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Article 21264
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:01:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 08:57:33 -0700, Geo Rule
<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote:
>
>No, it's brand new.  Only been out for a couple months.  Filmed on the
>International Space Station by the astronauts as they have been
>constructing it.  Just spectacular.
>
They have it here at the Science Center in Baltimore, but they only
show it once a night and we just aren't going to get there any time
soon.  Sigh.

JT

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Article 21265
From: noone" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:36:43 -0400
Subject: Re: something for free, but not lunch
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

john tilden was the first answer so it's his as soon as i have an adddress
to mail it to, thank you for your courteous note john and best regards to
all in the group.
"gunner"
(by the way, i notice that for some reason the newsgroup programme lists me
as "noone" and "no one@home" when i post, that's a quirk of the programme,
not of my doing, anyone who would like to have my actual e-mail address is
welcome to pick it up from the text of my post below and if i say something
you'd like to comment on feel fee to e-mail me.)
-------------------------
"noone" <no_one@home> wrote in message news:3d14ffd6.0@news.sff.net...
> i've been more a lurker than a contributor here but amist my junk i've
just
> come across a clipping from  a "cult movies" publication titled "the
> starship troopers symposium", commentary on the book vs. the movie by brad
> linaweaver, 4sj ackerman, william alan ritch, george mulligan, j. neil
> schulman, david t. lindsay and daffydd ap hugh. and including a couple of
> newsprint halftone photos from the movie. i'd like to offer it, free for
the
> asking, to someone who is collecting/archiving such things as, if i keep
it,
> it will likely wind up lost or destroyed (e.g. i found it in the upper
> pocket of a field jacket i hadn't worn for a year or two!) if anyone is
> interested please e-mail me at gunnera4@yahoo.com and we'll arrange to
snail
> mail it to you.
> "gunner"
>
>
>



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Article 21266
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:50:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

OOOOOH!!! Now I have to go look for that...
BTW, just saw Minority Report, and I liked it, though the ending was 
very non-Dickian (I'll have to dig up the story and re-read, because I 
don't remember it). The tech was fun.
-Wendy of NJ

Geo Rule wrote:

> No, it's brand new.  Only been out for a couple months.  Filmed on the
> International Space Station by the astronauts as they have been
> constructing it.  Just spectacular.
> 
> Best. Geo
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:36:50 -0400, Voxwoman <voxwoman@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Is that the film centered around a child living on the space station and 
>>her dad had to land on either a comet or asteroid? Or is this a new film?
>>
>>Which Imax is it in? (I possibly saw it several years ago in NYC)
>>-Wendy of NJ
>>
>>Geo Rule wrote:
>>
>>
>>>   Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
>>>the best I've ever seen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Geo Rule
>>>
>>>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>>>****
>>>Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
>>>the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
>>>Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> Geo Rule
> 
> www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison,
> Jesse James & Friends, Copperheads,
> the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch.
> 


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Article 21267
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:26:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:42nahugnk741kfq9g474pon3unruppgkr4@4ax.com...
>
>    Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
> the best I've ever seen.
>
>

How do they do the 3D effect? What kind of special glasses do you have to
wear in order to watch the movie.

The flick is playing at Air and Space right now, I'd love to see it, but I'm
worried about being able to see the whole 3D thing.

WJaKe



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Article 21268
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 19:00:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


    They are one-size-fits-all.  Sort of big sunglasses.  Not sure how
they'd work over regular glasses, since neither Deb nor I wear them
(anymore!).  Maybe they have other kinds for people with glasses
--must be a common issue.

     I peaked without the glasses a time or two and the screen is very
blurry if you aren't looking thru the glasses.  I'm not sure what the
name of the specific technology is, but it is very effective.

     Hey, JaKe. . .which story are you going to review for the
website, hmm?

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:26:07 -0400, "William J. Keaton"
<wjake@prodigy.net> wrote:

>
>"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
>news:42nahugnk741kfq9g474pon3unruppgkr4@4ax.com...
>>
>>    Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
>> the best I've ever seen.
>>
>>
>
>How do they do the 3D effect? What kind of special glasses do you have to
>wear in order to watch the movie.
>
>The flick is playing at Air and Space right now, I'd love to see it, but I'm
>worried about being able to see the whole 3D thing.
>
>WJaKe
>


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

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Article 21269
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 19:21:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews and Heinlein & Slavery
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Yeesh.  The Puppet Masters.  How'd we miss that?  And, come to think
of it, one of the stories in Methusaleh's Children could be read that
way, but I don't think I will.  Re-titling "Heinlein, Missouri, &
Slavery" because I intend to take a shot at offering an explanation
for how he came by his views, what the culture around him in his
formative years would have been telling him about slavery.


On 21 Jun 2002 18:11:32 GMT, georule@civilwarstlouis.com wrote:

>Logic of Empire.  And Duh! to me.


Geo Rule

http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
****
Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch

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Article 21270
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:45:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Space Station 3D Imax
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

if they aren't the "active" ones I wore at the Sony to see the fictional 
space station movie a few years back (heavy and gave me a headache after 
a while), I think they could possibly be 2 lenses that are polarized 
orthoganally with each other. you can check for polarization with 2 
pairs of glasses (turn one in front of the other, and if it goes 
entirely black at some point, they're polarized).

IMO, The Imax at the Smithsonian is a poor cousin to the screens 
elsewhere (such as Liberty Science center in Jersey City, or the Sony 
Imax in Midtown Manhattan) since it was one of the first built.

-Wendy of NJ

Geo Rule wrote:

>     They are one-size-fits-all.  Sort of big sunglasses.  Not sure how
> they'd work over regular glasses, since neither Deb nor I wear them
> (anymore!).  Maybe they have other kinds for people with glasses
> --must be a common issue.
> 
>      I peaked without the glasses a time or two and the screen is very
> blurry if you aren't looking thru the glasses.  I'm not sure what the
> name of the specific technology is, but it is very effective.
> 
>      Hey, JaKe. . .which story are you going to review for the
> website, hmm?
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:26:07 -0400, "William J. Keaton"
> <wjake@prodigy.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>"Geo Rule" <georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
>>news:42nahugnk741kfq9g474pon3unruppgkr4@4ax.com...
>>
>>>   Deb and I went to see this today.  Wow.  I mean WOW.  And the 3D is
>>>the best I've ever seen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>How do they do the 3D effect? What kind of special glasses do you have to
>>wear in order to watch the movie.
>>
>>The flick is playing at Air and Space right now, I'd love to see it, but I'm
>>worried about being able to see the whole 3D thing.
>>
>>WJaKe
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Geo Rule
> 
> http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
> ****
> Specializing in the Confederate Secret Service,
> the Sultana, Gratiot St. Prison, Jesse James & Friends,
> Copperheads, the Northwest Conspiracy, and the Damn Dutch
> 


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Article 21271
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:55:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

George. I'd like to take 'All You Zombies' and 'By His Bootstraps' as time
travel stories are favorites of mine and I already have done a little work
on this and have created graphic timelines for them.

David Wright



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Article 21272
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 24 Jun 2002 15:52:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

David--

   I've already broken the "one to a customer" rule once today (with Dee),
so why not twice?  I think with stories where there is some relationship,
like the two you mention, it does make sense.  And we have a lot of stories
to cover.

    So go for it.

    Also, Dee has finished and submitted "Searchlight" and has moved on
to "The Black Pits of Luna".  You go, girl!


Best. Geo

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Article 21273
From: Dee" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:46:32 -0500
Subject: Heinlein Reviews--"Searchlight
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

    As Geo said in another post, I have tentatively completed my review of
"Searchlight."  A very short review of a very short story.
    Why do I say tentavely finished?  Because I am posting it here for
comment by the rest of you.  I would rather this group of Heinlien readers
catch my errors than have them appear on Deb's page, possibly to confuse
newbies.  I welcome all suggeastions, which I may or may not follow.  :-)
So here goes:

=========================================================

                                             "Searchlight"  © 1962
                                 Collected in The Past Through Tomorrow

    Five year old Betsy is a musical prodigy;  she is also blind.  When the
rocket in which she is traveling crashes, the pilot is rendered unconscious.
Little Betsy is lost and alone on the surface of the Moon, and unless
rescuers can find the ship quickly, she will surely die.

    In this short-short story (only 4 pages) Heinlein demonstrates the
limitations of radar, explains radio direction-finding with a loop antenna,
and comes up with an ingenious solution to the problem of finding little
Betsy.

    While this story is less engaging on an emotional level than many,
largely because of the brevity of the form, it is in some ways a perfect
miniature of much of Mr. Heinlein's work: a character of unusual ability, a
foolish know-nothing telling the experts how to do the job, resolution
through technology used wisely and creatively.

--Submitted by Deanna S. Higginbotham




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Article 21274
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:08:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:3d17404d.0@news.sff.net...
> David--
>
>    I've already broken the "one to a customer" rule once today (with Dee),
> so why not twice?  I think with stories where there is some relationship,
> like the two you mention, it does make sense.  And we have a lot of
stories
> to cover.
>

Geo. I don't recall any specs as to whether or not 'spoilers' should be
avoided. These two time travel stories are *hard* to describe without giving
away the endings. The very nature of the 'looping' gives away a great deal
of the details. Is this going to be a problem?

David



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Article 21275
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:11:41 -0400
Subject: A question for Resident Panel of Experts
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I asked this question on AFH, but have had no response there yet.

Do we have anyone knowledgeable in Naval Law History?

In TNOTB, (I believe), RAH described a naval captain being court-martialed
for letting his crew vote on which liberty port they wanted.

Does anyone remember this and is it based on a true story. If so, does
anyone know the details?

I asked Mrs. Heinlein and she said that she thought it was real, but had no
specifics.

Thanks

David Wright




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Article 21276
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 24 Jun 2002 19:40:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I'm not worried about spoilers, particularly if they'll spoil your review
if you can't use them.

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Article 21277
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:41:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Reviews
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


<georule@civilwarstlouis.com> wrote in message
news:3d17759d.0@news.sff.net...
> I'm not worried about spoilers, particularly if they'll spoil your review
> if you can't use them.

Thanks. I'll do the best I can.

David



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Article 21278
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:03:11 -0400
Subject: Re: A question for Resident Panel of Experts
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

This is the sort of question our local sysop, Yog, might be able to
answer.  You could try posting it to sff.people.doyle-macdonald

--
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca



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Article 21279
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:43:27 GMT
Subject: Diverting from RAH... LIW
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


  Diverting for a moment from the Heinlein review project...

  Laura Ingalls Wilder fans...

  I've added a new Laura Ingalls Wilder page to that section of the
site. It's called "Laura's Friends". I applied some of the genealogy
and history research techniques I've been using for the Civil War
stuff to Laura's books. First surprise was the Boasts who were almost,
but not quite, as Laura described them.

  Then there's Mr. Edwards. I'd love to hear some feedback on my
thoughts and conclusions in that area.

  http://www.dahoudek.com/LIW/index.html


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 21280
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:42:08 -0400
Subject: Re: A question for Resident Panel of Experts
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Eli Hestermann" <Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:3D177AFF.535C5604@dfci.harvard.edu...
> This is the sort of question our local sysop, Yog, might be able to
> answer.  You could try posting it to sff.people.doyle-macdonald
>
> --
> Eli V. Hestermann
> Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
> "Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca
>
>


Thanks, I'll give it a try.

David



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Article 21281
From: noone" 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:34:14 -0400
Subject: Re: A question for Resident Panel of Experts
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

i've heard that story too, allegedly it happened in 6th fleet (med fleet)
some years back over whether to make port in naples or another port instead,
the question being which port had the better chance of  informal
recreational facilities and friendly "recreational specialists". i can't
swear that the story is true though, i heard it as scuttlebutt and that's
how i'm passing it on. i wish old dan gallery were still with us, he'd know,
for an admiral that old buzzard knew entirely too much about what goes on
'tween decks.
"gunner"
---------------------------------
"David Wright" <dwrighsr@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:3d176f51.0@news.sff.net...
> I asked this question on AFH, but have had no response there yet.
>
> Do we have anyone knowledgeable in Naval Law History?
>
> In TNOTB, (I believe), RAH described a naval captain being court-martialed
> for letting his crew vote on which liberty port they wanted.
>
> Does anyone remember this and is it based on a true story. If so, does
> anyone know the details?
>
> I asked Mrs. Heinlein and she said that she thought it was real, but had
no
> specifics.
>
> Thanks
>
> David Wright
>
>
>
>



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