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Article 23110
From: Kevin Patrick Crowley
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0600
Subject: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
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Article 23111
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:18:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Kevin: That is a sad note to pass on.
The Locus web page mentions "Mission of Gravity". Just from my own
collection of his works I would include: "Close to Critical",
"Needle" and "Iceworld" as well as Mission. These were all very
well written 'hard' SF.
RIP
Ed J
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0600, Kevin Patrick Crowley
<kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote:
>http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
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Article 23112
From: gunner"
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:30:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
very sad news, like a lot of fans who have attended cons i knew hal clement
and he had a special place in my life. it was the serial version of his
"needle" in "astounding" back in 1949 that introduced me to real science
fiction as opposed to "planet comics", and all else, including my reading
and enjoying heinlein began there, lasting the rest of my life so far. i had
the chance to meet hal at "novacon 9 west" in albany in 1979 and introduced
myself as "having much to thank him for" then explained as above. hal was a
gentleman, always courteous to fans and as much a fan himself as an author.
i'll always remember him describing flying a b-24 "liberator" bomber on the
deck, balls to the wall, on the ploesti raid as "an exercise in terror" to a
pretty girl at a con who wasn't even born when that happened while she
listened big eyed. another of our great old ones is gone and we will not see
his like again.
"gunner"
----------------------
"Kevin Patrick Crowley" <kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote in
message news:3fa078b8.0@news.sff.net...
> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
>
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Article 23113
From: Robert Slater"
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 04:44:00 -0800
Subject: Help Please for overconfident uber-geek wannabe
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Hey folks,
I installed Linux for a class. Before I did this I installed WinXP on my
new faster 2nd Harddrive. So then I had XP on both drives. I used the
transfer files and settings and had everything running on the second
install. THen I installed Linux on the first harddrive. WinXP won't come
up. I reinstall WinXP in a new folder on my second harddrive, everythings
okay, I think. All my stuff is there. But when I look in my wifes logon
nothings there. I can't find her address book or anything for outlook
express.
I think I can uninstall this latest version of WinXP, but I can't repair the
previous one because it says I need an administrator password. I don't
remember setting up a password. My wife is going to dismember me as well as
make me buy here anew laptop that I don't get to mess with if I don't fix
this. Help.
Rob
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Article 23114
From: Filksinger"
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:28:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Help Please for overconfident uber-geek wannabe
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Robert Slater wrote:
> Hey folks,
> I installed Linux for a class. Before I did this I installed WinXP
> on my new faster 2nd Harddrive. So then I had XP on both drives. I
> used the transfer files and settings and had everything running on
> the second install. THen I installed Linux on the first harddrive.
> WinXP won't come up. I reinstall WinXP in a new folder on my second
> harddrive, everythings okay, I think. All my stuff is there. But
> when I look in my wifes logon nothings there. I can't find her
> address book or anything for outlook express.
>
> I think I can uninstall this latest version of WinXP, but I can't
> repair the previous one because it says I need an administrator
> password. I don't remember setting up a password. My wife is going
> to dismember me as well as make me buy here anew laptop that I don't
> get to mess with if I don't fix this. Help.
This page contains a link to a floppy disk image (and software to write that
image) that will boot an XP machine and allow editing the password files.
Detailed explaination of how to use the floppy is included.
I do not, however, guarantee that the explanations will make sense. I think
you should be able to figure it out. I also must state that I don't know for
certain that this works or can be trusted. Finally, this disk can
undoubtedly screw you up royally if you make a mistake. It claims you can
recover from _most_ mistakes.
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
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Article 23115
From: JT
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:36:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Help Please for overconfident uber-geek wannabe
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Rob,
I'm not clear if you know as to where you should be looking. XP
installs the user information into \Documents and Settings\'username'.
The address book settings are buried individually under that as a
subfolder \Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book.
Outlook Express is under \Documents and Settings\'username'\Local
Settings\Application Data\Identities\'long hex
string'\Microsoft\Outlook Express .
If you already looked in these places and still can't find her files,
search for .wab files for address book and .dbx files for OE folders.
Are you sure you revealed all hidden files and extensions within
Explorer on the restored install?
As long as the original install didn't corrupt the original
directories, you should be able to do a simple copy over and work from
there. Because the Outlook Express ties into that long hex string,
you might need to create a new identity for her first, then do an
import within Outlook Express so that it all is recognized as "back".
As far as the administrator password, well, there are tools out there
that can reset an admin password, but for an administrative restore
they want the very first one you typed in when you did the initial
installation of XP. The "enter" key is a password (blank) if all else
fails with that, to at least try it.
Filk will probably be able to jump in and give you something even
better for a step-by-step if my help didn't really help, but he'll
probably want to know that you've tried what I suggested anyway.
By the way, what I think you did in the first place was to rewrite the
boot loader of the disk, replacing XP's with a loader program for
Linux that didn't recognize either XP or (guessing) NTFS in general.
I know it's possible to have them coexist happily but volume placement
seems to be a critical piece of the puzzle. Now that you've installed
XP a second time I'm not sure that you would be able to boot to that
first installation anyway.
When I did it, I cheated and used a floppy disk to boot the Linux
partition. It was a lot easier. ;)
Good luck--if Filk doesn't show and you need more help, I'm game. If
not, I have a few leads on cheap laptops for you. <g,d, &r!!>
JT
P.S. A disk-imaging tool like Norton Ghost is a lifesaver if you're
going to play around like this. You can buy it as a part of the OEM
Norton System Works for $20 if you buy last year's version, and Ghost
plus an extra large hard drive is the easiest full backup there is.
And that way you get the boot records, too. ;)
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 04:44:00 -0800, "Robert Slater"
<rslater215@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hey folks,
>I installed Linux for a class. Before I did this I installed WinXP on my
>new faster 2nd Harddrive. So then I had XP on both drives. I used the
>transfer files and settings and had everything running on the second
>install. THen I installed Linux on the first harddrive. WinXP won't come
>up. I reinstall WinXP in a new folder on my second harddrive, everythings
>okay, I think. All my stuff is there. But when I look in my wifes logon
>nothings there. I can't find her address book or anything for outlook
>express.
>
>I think I can uninstall this latest version of WinXP, but I can't repair the
>previous one because it says I need an administrator password. I don't
>remember setting up a password. My wife is going to dismember me as well as
>make me buy here anew laptop that I don't get to mess with if I don't fix
>this. Help.
>
>Rob
>
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Article 23116
From: Filksinger"
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:48:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Help Please for overconfident uber-geek wannabe
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
JT wrote:
<snip>
> P.S. A disk-imaging tool like Norton Ghost is a lifesaver if you're
> going to play around like this. You can buy it as a part of the OEM
> Norton System Works for $20 if you buy last year's version, and Ghost
> plus an extra large hard drive is the easiest full backup there is.
> And that way you get the boot records, too. ;)
http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/13/2/13-2-39.shtml
Freeware disk imaging software. Similar to Ghost, except in price, though
with fewer features than the latest versions, I'm sure.
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
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Article 23117
From: Kevin Patrick Crowley
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:11:17 -0600
Subject: Guest book was Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
The Guest book for his funeral.
http://www.ccgfuneralhome.com/services/services.asp
Kevin Patrick Crowley wrote:
> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
>
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Article 23118
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:46:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
gunner:
You might be able to help flesh-out his bio. Details like his
having been on the Ploesti raid are worthy of note, IMNSHO.
Ed
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:30:20 -0500, "gunner" <gunnera4@sover.net>
wrote:
>very sad news, like a lot of fans who have attended cons i knew hal clement
>and he had a special place in my life. it was the serial version of his
>"needle" in "astounding" back in 1949 that introduced me to real science
>fiction as opposed to "planet comics", and all else, including my reading
>and enjoying heinlein began there, lasting the rest of my life so far. i had
>the chance to meet hal at "novacon 9 west" in albany in 1979 and introduced
>myself as "having much to thank him for" then explained as above. hal was a
>gentleman, always courteous to fans and as much a fan himself as an author.
>i'll always remember him describing flying a b-24 "liberator" bomber on the
>deck, balls to the wall, on the ploesti raid as "an exercise in terror" to a
>pretty girl at a con who wasn't even born when that happened while she
>listened big eyed. another of our great old ones is gone and we will not see
>his like again.
>"gunner"
>----------------------
>
>"Kevin Patrick Crowley" <kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote in
>message news:3fa078b8.0@news.sff.net...
>> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
>>
>
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Article 23119
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:02:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Guest book was Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Kevin:
Thank you for that link.
Ed J
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:11:17 -0600, Kevin Patrick Crowley
<kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote:
>The Guest book for his funeral.
>
>http://www.ccgfuneralhome.com/services/services.asp
>
>Kevin Patrick Crowley wrote:
>
>> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
>>
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Article 23120
From: gunner"
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 01:13:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
ed,
i'd be glad to help if i knew anything that amounted to anything, hal and i
weren't all that close. we knew each other meeting at cons and exchanging
friendly greetings but he was friendly with everyone, as i said, "as much a
fan as an author. the incident i described happened at a con on the r.p.i.
campus in troy n.y. some years ago. most of what i know is the common
knowledge, that as "harry stubbs", his real name, he was a u.s.a.a.f. flying
officer on b-24s in ww2 and, i believe rose to either lt. colonel or colonel
but you'll want to check that with better sources than me. saying that "he
had a special place in my life" was referring to his work introducing me to
real science fiction and the high regard i had for him for that reason as
well as his ability to make even the strangest of planets and their
inhabitants come alive in my mind. the ploesti story, to this old marine's
ear, had the ring of an authentic "i was there and did it" account, slipping
back into the pilot's slang of the time as he told it, and even after all
the years he still remembered details like what engines the b-24 carried,
correcting me when my information was wrong. i wish i had more, and better
to tell but there it is, and if anything i've said is useful you have full
and free permission to use it with no compensation asked or wanted.
"gunner"
------------------------------
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:s1b6qv82q6qlm3d31fh4deijbh7ottu3jr@4ax.com...
> gunner:
> You might be able to help flesh-out his bio. Details like his
> having been on the Ploesti raid are worthy of note, IMNSHO.
>
> Ed
>
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:30:20 -0500, "gunner" <gunnera4@sover.net>
> wrote:
>
> >very sad news, like a lot of fans who have attended cons i knew hal
clement
> >and he had a special place in my life. it was the serial version of his
> >"needle" in "astounding" back in 1949 that introduced me to real science
> >fiction as opposed to "planet comics", and all else, including my reading
> >and enjoying heinlein began there, lasting the rest of my life so far. i
had
> >the chance to meet hal at "novacon 9 west" in albany in 1979 and
introduced
> >myself as "having much to thank him for" then explained as above. hal was
a
> >gentleman, always courteous to fans and as much a fan himself as an
author.
> >i'll always remember him describing flying a b-24 "liberator" bomber on
the
> >deck, balls to the wall, on the ploesti raid as "an exercise in terror"
to a
> >pretty girl at a con who wasn't even born when that happened while she
> >listened big eyed. another of our great old ones is gone and we will not
see
> >his like again.
> >"gunner"
> >----------------------
> >
> >"Kevin Patrick Crowley" <kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote in
> >message news:3fa078b8.0@news.sff.net...
> >> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
> >>
> >
>
>
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Article 23121
From: Kevin Patrick Crowley
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:07:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
We was also recalled for korea where he served as XO for his wing.
Kevn
gunner wrote:
> ed,
> i'd be glad to help if i knew anything that amounted to anything, hal and i
> weren't all that close. we knew each other meeting at cons and exchanging
> friendly greetings but he was friendly with everyone, as i said, "as much a
> fan as an author. the incident i described happened at a con on the r.p.i.
> campus in troy n.y. some years ago. most of what i know is the common
> knowledge, that as "harry stubbs", his real name, he was a u.s.a.a.f. flying
> officer on b-24s in ww2 and, i believe rose to either lt. colonel or colonel
> but you'll want to check that with better sources than me. saying that "he
> had a special place in my life" was referring to his work introducing me to
> real science fiction and the high regard i had for him for that reason as
> well as his ability to make even the strangest of planets and their
> inhabitants come alive in my mind. the ploesti story, to this old marine's
> ear, had the ring of an authentic "i was there and did it" account, slipping
> back into the pilot's slang of the time as he told it, and even after all
> the years he still remembered details like what engines the b-24 carried,
> correcting me when my information was wrong. i wish i had more, and better
> to tell but there it is, and if anything i've said is useful you have full
> and free permission to use it with no compensation asked or wanted.
> "gunner"
> ------------------------------
> "Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
> news:s1b6qv82q6qlm3d31fh4deijbh7ottu3jr@4ax.com...
>
>>gunner:
>> You might be able to help flesh-out his bio. Details like his
>>having been on the Ploesti raid are worthy of note, IMNSHO.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:30:20 -0500, "gunner" <gunnera4@sover.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>very sad news, like a lot of fans who have attended cons i knew hal
>
> clement
>
>>>and he had a special place in my life. it was the serial version of his
>>>"needle" in "astounding" back in 1949 that introduced me to real science
>>>fiction as opposed to "planet comics", and all else, including my reading
>
>
>>>and enjoying heinlein began there, lasting the rest of my life so far. i
>
> had
>
>>>the chance to meet hal at "novacon 9 west" in albany in 1979 and
>
> introduced
>
>>>myself as "having much to thank him for" then explained as above. hal was
>
> a
>
>>>gentleman, always courteous to fans and as much a fan himself as an
>
> author.
>
>>>i'll always remember him describing flying a b-24 "liberator" bomber on
>
> the
>
>>>deck, balls to the wall, on the ploesti raid as "an exercise in terror"
>
> to a
>
>>>pretty girl at a con who wasn't even born when that happened while she
>>>listened big eyed. another of our great old ones is gone and we will not
>
> see
>
>>>his like again.
>>>"gunner"
>>>----------------------
>>>
>>>"Kevin Patrick Crowley" <kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote in
>>>message news:3fa078b8.0@news.sff.net...
>>>
>>>>http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Article 23122
From: gunner"
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:54:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Hal Clement has died
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
i found this at "hour 25", if it will help, if the url works it might have
been hal's last interview. there's also a note on hal's passing on his home
page
"gunner"
http://www.hour25online.com/Hour25_Previous_Shows_2003-06.html#hal-clement_2
003-06-24
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"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:s1b6qv82q6qlm3d31fh4deijbh7ottu3jr@4ax.com...
> gunner:
> You might be able to help flesh-out his bio. Details like his
> having been on the Ploesti raid are worthy of note, IMNSHO.
>
> Ed
>
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:30:20 -0500, "gunner" <gunnera4@sover.net>
> wrote:
>
> >very sad news, like a lot of fans who have attended cons i knew hal
clement
> >and he had a special place in my life. it was the serial version of his
> >"needle" in "astounding" back in 1949 that introduced me to real science
> >fiction as opposed to "planet comics", and all else, including my reading
> >and enjoying heinlein began there, lasting the rest of my life so far. i
had
> >the chance to meet hal at "novacon 9 west" in albany in 1979 and
introduced
> >myself as "having much to thank him for" then explained as above. hal was
a
> >gentleman, always courteous to fans and as much a fan himself as an
author.
> >i'll always remember him describing flying a b-24 "liberator" bomber on
the
> >deck, balls to the wall, on the ploesti raid as "an exercise in terror"
to a
> >pretty girl at a con who wasn't even born when that happened while she
> >listened big eyed. another of our great old ones is gone and we will not
see
> >his like again.
> >"gunner"
> >----------------------
> >
> >"Kevin Patrick Crowley" <kevin.crowley@crowleyenterprises.com> wrote in
> >message news:3fa078b8.0@news.sff.net...
> >> http://www.locusmag.com/2003/News/10_Clement.html
> >>
> >
>
>
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Article 23123
From: David Wright"
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:41:28 -0500
Subject: Logs for Heinlein Readers Group Discussions 10-23 10-25 now available
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
The Logs for the Heinlein Readers Group Discussions on 10-23-2003 and
10-25-2003 are now available at:
http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html and
http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html
The Topic was "Time Travel vs. Free Will; is there really a conflict?"
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Article 23124
From: Filksinger"
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 16:15:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Logs for Heinlein Readers Group Discussions 10-23 10-25 now available
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
David Wright wrote:
> The Logs for the Heinlein Readers Group Discussions on 10-23-2003 and
> 10-25-2003 are now available at:
>
> http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html and
>
> http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html
>
> The Topic was "Time Travel vs. Free Will; is there really a conflict?"
Uh, didn't you mean
http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-23-2003.html and
http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html?
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
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Article 23125
From: David Wright"
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:11:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Logs for Heinlein Readers Group Discussions 10-23 10-25 now available
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Much Thanks. I didn't spot that.
David
"Filksinger" <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:3fa59e2d.0@news.sff.net...
> David Wright wrote:
> > The Logs for the Heinlein Readers Group Discussions on 10-23-2003 and
> > 10-25-2003 are now available at:
> >
> > http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html and
> >
> > http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html
> >
> > The Topic was "Time Travel vs. Free Will; is there really a conflict?"
>
> Uh, didn't you mean
> http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-23-2003.html and
> http://heinleinsociety.org/readersgroup/AIM_10-25-2003.html?
>
> --
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
>
>
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Article 23126
From: Filksinger"
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:45:57 -0800
Subject: Winner and Still Champion - The Undefeated Einstein!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1106/p16s02-stss.html
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Article 23127
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:37:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Winner and Still Champion - The Undefeated Einstein!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Filksinger: I guess that no one has detected the hypothetical
'tachyon' particle.
Ed
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:45:57 -0800, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:
>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1106/p16s02-stss.html
>
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