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Article 22050
From: noone" 
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:16:04 -0500
Subject: over the rainbow?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

i keep hearing that hillary clinton plans to run for president in 2008, i've
been having this persistent fantasy of her finding herself facing condoleeza
rice as her opponent. that could pose some people a pretty problem about
"who to vote for" couldn't it. to say nothing of completely confounding the
likes of jackson and sharpton. and if you're wondering, yes, my vote would
go to ms. rice.
"gunner"



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Article 22051
From: Catherine Hampton 
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:58:56 -0800
Subject: Re: "over the rainbow?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:16:04 -0500, "noone" <no_one@home> wrote:

>i keep hearing that hillary clinton plans to run for president in 2008, i've
>been having this persistent fantasy of her finding herself facing condoleeza
>rice as her opponent. that could pose some people a pretty problem about
>"who to vote for" couldn't it. to say nothing of completely confounding the
>likes of jackson and sharpton. and if you're wondering, yes, my vote would
>go to ms. rice.

Forget Tolkien -- I call =this= fantasy. ;>


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Article 22052
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:22:41 -0800
Subject: Glass is Cheap!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Well, my 10-year-old decided to re-arranged the living room furniture, and
my 12-year-old wasn't careful enough while reaching over a chair to close a
window, and put his hand through the living room window.

He didn't seem too upset, though it took 6 stitches. The window, OTOH,
looked to be likely to cost me about $300 to replace. By continuing to check
around, however, after about 7 different places, I found one for $139.

Moral? Well, I'm stuck between "Be sure to shop around", and "Don't let your
10-year-old rearrange the furniture while you aren't watching."
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22053
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:23:46 -0800
Subject: Library Bans Self
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

This is a beautiful example of why I think that filtering software is a
joke.

http://www.activedayton.com/ddn/local/daily/1122flesh.html
--
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AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22054
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:41:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Glass is Cheap!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum



Filksinger wrote:

> Well, my 10-year-old decided to re-arranged the living room furniture, and
> my 12-year-old wasn't careful enough while reaching over a chair to close a
> window, and put his hand through the living room window.


Ouch!


> 
> He didn't seem too upset, though it took 6 stitches. The window, OTOH,
> looked to be likely to cost me about $300 to replace. By continuing to check
> around, however, after about 7 different places, I found one for $139.


(but really, the medical bills will be around 500 dollars - at least. 
Just because your insurance is picking it up doesn't mean the cost isn't 
there. My daughter's put her hand thru a window or 2 herself during her 
not-quite decade on the planet.)


> 
> Moral? Well, I'm stuck between "Be sure to shop around", and "Don't let your
> 10-year-old rearrange the furniture while you aren't watching."


sounds good to me :)
-Wendy of NJ


> --
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
> 
> 
> 


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Article 22055
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:43:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Library Bans Self
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

There are 2 counties in New Jersey that were banned with the first batch 
of filtering software: Middlesex and Sussex counties (because the three 
letters s-e-x appears in their names.)

Filksinger wrote:

> This is a beautiful example of why I think that filtering software is a
> joke.
> 
> http://www.activedayton.com/ddn/local/daily/1122flesh.html
> --
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
> 
> 
> 


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Article 22056
From: filksinger@earthling.net
Date: 15 Jan 2003 21:13:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Library Bans Self
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Voxwoman wrote:
>>>
There are 2 counties in New Jersey that were banned with the first batch

of filtering software: Middlesex and Sussex counties (because the three

letters s-e-x appears in their names.)
>>>

The failings of such software are a continuing source of amusement for me.

The time the White House website was banned for mentioning that the Clinton's
were a "couple", but www.whitehouse.com, the infamous porn site, was still
available.

The time a kids soccer team was banned because their site mentioned "Kids
under 12" and "Kids under 14".

Last presidential race, when the company responsible for the filtering lists
for the AOL protections blocked most websites belonging to political parties
fielding presidential candidates that year, including the Democrats (and,
with the exception of the Libertarians, almost entirely Liberal parties).

The ability to turn off "keyword filtering", so that you can see sites that
mention "breasts", but which doesn't work, because the lists themselves
were created by the same keyword filtering software.

And so on, ad nauseum.

The best filtering software designable today would be badly flawed, to say
the least. The software that is actually _used_ today, however, is a joke.

For more humor, try www.peacefire.org.

-- 
Filksinger
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Impaired

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Article 22057
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:12:33 -0800
Subject: Re: Glass is Cheap!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Voxwoman <voxwoman@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Filksinger wrote:
<snip>
>> He didn't seem too upset, though it took 6 stitches. The window,
>> OTOH, looked to be likely to cost me about $300 to replace. By
>> continuing to check around, however, after about 7 different places,
>> I found one for $139.
>
>
> (but really, the medical bills will be around 500 dollars - at least.
> Just because your insurance is picking it up doesn't mean the cost
> isn't there. My daughter's put her hand thru a window or 2 herself
> during her not-quite decade on the planet.)

I don't doubt the bills, but. since the insurance pays for it, the actual
price is of little importance, except as a justification for the money I put
into that insurance each month.

I do have to pay $50 for the emergency room visit (difficult to go to the
family physician at 10:30 PM), and the window turns out to be closer to $230
(increase partly due to the design of the window frame, but still cheapest
quote), this puts me back about $280 I don't have.

Still, the money is nothing compared to knowing he's fine. Really bad
timing, but still, it doesn't matter by comparison.
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22058
From: noone" 
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:17:16 -0500
Subject: Re: "over the rainbow?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

ah, but think of all the morons we could annoy with not only a black
president but an intelligent female black president. including some over
here on my side of the political spectrum.
"gunner"
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"Catherine Hampton" <xzm@hrweb.org> wrote in message
news:k6v62v0ovp47be8e6c1vhve50am9nnoveu@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:16:04 -0500, "noone" <no_one@home> wrote:
>
> >i keep hearing that hillary clinton plans to run for president in 2008,
i've
> >been having this persistent fantasy of her finding herself facing
condoleeza
> >rice as her opponent. that could pose some people a pretty problem about
> >"who to vote for" couldn't it. to say nothing of completely confounding
the
> >likes of jackson and sharpton. and if you're wondering, yes, my vote
would
> >go to ms. rice.
>
> Forget Tolkien -- I call =this= fantasy. ;>
>
>
> --
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Article 22059
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:39:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Library Bans Self
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

FS:    I'll bet that they who believe in censorship have little or
no sense of humor.  I find this amusing, will they ?  ;-)

Ed

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:23:46 -0800, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>This is a beautiful example of why I think that filtering software is a
>joke.
>
>http://www.activedayton.com/ddn/local/daily/1122flesh.html


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Article 22060
From: David M. Silver" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:16:52 -0800
Subject: Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I'm sad to say I received the following e-mail message early this
morning from a close friend of Mrs. Virginia Heinlein.

"I'm sorry to tell you that Ginny passed away this morning.  She slipped
away peacefully in her sleep.  I
don't know any details beyond that."

There will probably be other notices, announcements, details,
arrangements; but I thought you'd need to know this.

I am deeply saddened. Mrs. Heinlein had the capacity of inspiring anyone
she spoke to and brightening their lives. Mrs. Heinlein had been
hospitalized since Thanksgiving following an accident in which she broke
her hip. At her wishes, no publicity or mention of this was made by
those of us who knew of it.

David M. Silver


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Article 22061
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:22:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

A sad day indeed. :(
-Wendy of NJ

David M. Silver wrote:

> I'm sad to say I received the following e-mail message early this
> morning from a close friend of Mrs. Virginia Heinlein.
> 
> "I'm sorry to tell you that Ginny passed away this morning.  She slipped
> away peacefully in her sleep.  I
> don't know any details beyond that."
> 
> There will probably be other notices, announcements, details,
> arrangements; but I thought you'd need to know this.
> 
> I am deeply saddened. Mrs. Heinlein had the capacity of inspiring anyone
> she spoke to and brightening their lives. Mrs. Heinlein had been
> hospitalized since Thanksgiving following an accident in which she broke
> her hip. At her wishes, no publicity or mention of this was made by
> those of us who knew of it.
> 
> David M. Silver
> 
> 


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Article 22062
From: Geo Rule 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:43:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Here's to the grandest old bag in twenty universes!"

"May She be blessed by God, Whoever He is, and kept safe. We'll never
see another like Her, more's the pity! --for we need them by the
gross!"

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:16:52 -0800, "David M. Silver"
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>I'm sad to say I received the following e-mail message early this
>morning from a close friend of Mrs. Virginia Heinlein.
>
>"I'm sorry to tell you that Ginny passed away this morning.  She slipped
>away peacefully in her sleep.  I
>don't know any details beyond that."
>
>There will probably be other notices, announcements, details,
>arrangements; but I thought you'd need to know this.
>
>I am deeply saddened. Mrs. Heinlein had the capacity of inspiring anyone
>she spoke to and brightening their lives. Mrs. Heinlein had been
>hospitalized since Thanksgiving following an accident in which she broke
>her hip. At her wishes, no publicity or mention of this was made by
>those of us who knew of it.
>
>David M. Silver


Geo Rule

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Article 22063
From: Dee" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:42:51 -0600
Subject: Saying farewell to Ginny
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hello, all.

    Pixelmeow (teresa) has opened up a permanent chatroom called "the Lanai"
as an extension of the virtual bar over at afh.
    Mrs. Heinlein once said that she hated the idea of a funeral, but an
Irish-style wake at the virtual bar would be nice.  Therefore I am proposing
a special gathering in the Lanai, tonight at 2100 EST.
    You need to have AIM open.  Then you can get there one of several ways:

    For Windows systems, the easiest is to right-click on your desktop and
create a new shortcut, paste the following as the shortcut command
aim:gochat?roomname=The+Lanai
                    or
    Go to pixel's website at http://teresa.mnsdesigns.com/ and click on AIM
Chat Room (Come on out onto the Lanai!)
                    or
    Look for me as jilyd, and ask for an invitation.

    Anyone who wants to share a toast in Ginny's honor is invited.

-Dee2



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Article 22064
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:20:33 -0800
Subject: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

For those of you who know of Ginny's cat Snowy, he has been staying with
a friend since Thanksgiving, is happy, and will remain there.
JimC

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Article 22065
From: Beatrice Kondo 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:49:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Thanks, Jim... I was just asking Dad about that, I was sure that someone had
made plans, but it's nice to be sure.

Beatrice

"James R. Cunningham" wrote:

> For those of you who know of Ginny's cat Snowy, he has been staying with
> a friend since Thanksgiving, is happy, and will remain there.
> JimC


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Article 22066
From: David Wright" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:12:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


James R. Cunningham <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3E29C521.489E9607@bellsouth.net...
> For those of you who know of Ginny's cat Snowy, he has been staying with
> a friend since Thanksgiving, is happy, and will remain there.
> JimC

Jim. Would you mind if I posted this on alt.fan.heinlein. I'm sure that
people there would like to know about this.

David Wright



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Article 22067
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:11:40 -0800
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

You're welcome Beatrice.  Give your dad a hug from me and Lela.
Jim

Beatrice Kondo wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jim... I was just asking Dad about that, I was sure that someone had
> made plans, but it's nice to be sure.
> 
> Beatrice

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Article 22068
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:30:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Of course, David. Go ahead.  If you think they'd like to know how Ginny
came by Snowy,.... Lela and I had a litter of kittens, or rather, one of
our momma cats did.  One became trapped in a piece of string while we
were at work, and we had to take it to the vet that night and have its
leg amputated.  The next day, I was telling Ginny about it, and she
said, "Oh, I wish I could take it, but they don't allow pets here".  I
told her we'd bring it to her if it survived and Fleet Landing decided
to allow it.  She said she'd check and called the next day to tell me to
bring it on as soon as it could travel.  So, even though it was touch
and go with the kitten, we made plans to carry it to Florida if it
survived.  The day before we were to leave the kitten died, rather
unexpectedly.  I called Ginny to tell her and she remarked that she had
really been looking forward to a new kitten (she still missed Pixel).  
So I responded with, "I got another one, only there ain't nuthin' wrong
with it".  She said, "Bring it on", so there we went with Snowy.  Let me
tell you, kittens don't like spending 4 1/2 hours in a small plane. 
Snowy turned out to be a great white hunter, and the source of several
Fleet Landing tales.  I'll pass them on later if anyone wants to hear
them.
Thank you all for caring,
Jim Cunningham

David Wright wrote:
> 
> James R. Cunningham <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:3E29C521.489E9607@bellsouth.net...
> > For those of you who know of Ginny's cat Snowy, he has been staying with
> > a friend since Thanksgiving, is happy, and will remain there.
> > JimC
> 
> Jim. Would you mind if I posted this on alt.fan.heinlein. I'm sure that
> people there would like to know about this.
> 
> David Wright

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Article 22069
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:41:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I'd like to add that arrangements were being made to provide some
additional safety features at Ginny's house, and to move her back home
next week.  She was aware of that and pleased by it.  She was a fighter
to the end, doing physical therapy as recently as yesterday (Friday),
and her sense of humor was intact.  Lela and I are going to miss her
immensely.  But we will be forever grateful that our circle of friends
grew because of her and those who care about her.
Jim Cunningham

David M. Silver wrote:
> Mrs. Heinlein had been
> hospitalized since Thanksgiving following an accident in which she broke
> her hip. At her wishes, no publicity or mention of this was made by
> those of us who knew of it.
> 
> David M. Silver

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Article 22070
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:48:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:49:50 -0400, Beatrice Kondo <bkondo1@umbc.edu>
wrote:

>Thanks, Jim... I was just asking Dad about that, I was sure that someone had
>made plans, but it's nice to be sure.
>
>Beatrice
>
Hi, Beatrice.  I'm sorry it took a sad event to get you posting back
here.  If you get some time post a note elsewhere telling us what
you've been up to.

JT

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Article 22071
From: David Wright" 
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:31:37 -0500
Subject: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Friends. I have posted some additional information about Ginny's passing on
The Heinlein Society web site at
http://heinleinsociety.org/GinnyNotice.html

The link to the virtual wake held last night at The Lanai is at
http://heinleinsociety.org/Ginny.html. A link to this is also found on the
above page.

David Wright
Webmaster
The Heinlein Society



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Article 22072
From: noone" 
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:23:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

received today from blanche noken via the "callahan's" group. i wasn't
closely aquainted with virginia but i'll miss her as i do robert. a toast
gentlemen and ladies to two fine people the world is poorer without.
"gunner"
-------------
Eleanor Wood reports that Virginia Gerstenfeld Heinlein died this morning
peacefully in her sleep, like Robert at the Fleet Landing Health Center,
reportedly of congestive heart problems, two days before she was due to be
sent back home.
Hoist your glasses.

I picture them ice-skating together again.
"The sprite the ice gods chose," he once called her.

Spider Robinson

(Ginny is pictured on the cover of TRAMP ROYALE, and several photos of her
appear in Robert's memoir GRUMBLES FROM THE GRAVE, which she assembled and
edited.)

     THE WITCH'S DAUGHTERS

      Have no truck with the
          daughters of Lilith.
      Pay no mind the the
          red-headed creatures.
      Man, be warned by their
          sharp,white teeth;
      Consider their skulls, and their
          other queer features.

      They're not of our tribe, with their
          flame-colored hair;
      They're no sib to us, with their
          pale, white skins;
      There's no soul behind those
          wild green eyes.
      Man, when you meet one
          walk widdershins!

      When they die, they pop,
          like burst soap-bubble
      (Eight hundred years
          is their usual span).
      Loving such beings
          leads only to trouble.
      By Heaven, be warned,
          you rash young man!

                      Robert A. Heinlein
                           August 1946

(He failed to follow his own advice.)


"David Wright" <dwrighsr@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:3e2aef12.0@news.sff.net...
> Friends. I have posted some additional information about Ginny's passing
on
> The Heinlein Society web site at
> http://heinleinsociety.org/GinnyNotice.html
>
> The link to the virtual wake held last night at The Lanai is at
> http://heinleinsociety.org/Ginny.html. A link to this is also found on the
> above page.
>
> David Wright
> Webmaster
> The Heinlein Society
>
>
>



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Article 22073
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:47:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Snowy
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:49:50 -0400, Beatrice Kondo <bkondo1@umbc.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Jim... I was just asking Dad about that, I was sure that someone had
> >made plans, but it's nice to be sure.
> >
> >Beatrice
> >
> Hi, Beatrice.  I'm sorry it took a sad event to get you posting back
> here.  If you get some time post a note elsewhere telling us what
> you've been up to.

I second that request!


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Article 22074
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:33:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Also in a lovely acrylic portrait that Kelly Freas painted for me, that
hangs in the Heinlein Reading room at the Butler library.
All the best,
Jim Cunningham

noone wrote:

> (Ginny is pictured on the cover of TRAMP ROYALE, and several photos of her
> appear in Robert's memoir GRUMBLES FROM THE GRAVE, which she assembled and
> edited.)

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Article 22075
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:06:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

David:
    The world is a sadder, colder place for her passing.

Ed J

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:16:52 -0800, "David M. Silver"
<ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote:

>I'm sad to say I received the following e-mail message early this
>morning from a close friend of Mrs. Virginia Heinlein.
>
>"I'm sorry to tell you that Ginny passed away this morning.  She slipped
>away peacefully in her sleep.  I
>don't know any details beyond that."
>
>There will probably be other notices, announcements, details,
>arrangements; but I thought you'd need to know this.
>
>I am deeply saddened. Mrs. Heinlein had the capacity of inspiring anyone
>she spoke to and brightening their lives. Mrs. Heinlein had been
>hospitalized since Thanksgiving following an accident in which she broke
>her hip. At her wishes, no publicity or mention of this was made by
>those of us who knew of it.
>
>David M. Silver


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Article 22076
From: noone" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:04:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

actually it's "gunner" jim, the "noone" is something my isp seems to do to
me when posting here. i wish i could see that portrait of ginny but butler
is a long yomp from here.
"gunner"
---------------------
"James R. Cunningham" <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3E2B600E.EEEBFE5C@bellsouth.net...
> Also in a lovely acrylic portrait that Kelly Freas painted for me, that
> hangs in the Heinlein Reading room at the Butler library.
> All the best,
> Jim Cunningham
>
> noone wrote:
>
> > (Ginny is pictured on the cover of TRAMP ROYALE, and several photos of
her
> > appear in Robert's memoir GRUMBLES FROM THE GRAVE, which she assembled
and
> > edited.)



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Article 22077
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:16:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Send a private e-mail to me at jrccea@bellsouth.net with your snail-mail
address, and I'll take a photo of it while I'm there for the board
meeting this summer and send it to you.  It's based mostly on a photo
taken of Robert and Ginny during one of their cruises.  The photo was
taken shortly after Robert had the skin cancer removed from his cheek. 
We managed to lose the scar during the process of completing the
painting.
Jim 

noone wrote:
> 
> actually it's "gunner" jim, the "noone" is something my isp seems to do to
> me when posting here. i wish i could see that portrait of ginny but butler
> is a long yomp from here.
> "gunner"

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Article 22078
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:53:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:16:13 -0800, "James R. Cunningham"
<jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Send a private e-mail to me at jrccea@bellsouth.net with your snail-mail
>address, and I'll take a photo of it while I'm there for the board
>meeting this summer and send it to you.  It's based mostly on a photo
>taken of Robert and Ginny during one of their cruises.  The photo was
>taken shortly after Robert had the skin cancer removed from his cheek. 
>We managed to lose the scar during the process of completing the
>painting.
>Jim 
>
Hi Jim.... My faulty memory doesn't recall a painting, and somehow I
didn't take a picture of it when I visited.  Anyway, I did take a
picture of a picture of the two of them, and it's from a cruise,
that's not what you meant, is it?  
I did a quick low-quality scan of the photo at:
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~tilden/heinleins.jpg ; I'm not intending
to leave it up permanently.

That trip to Butler was quite enjoyable.  The library didn't know what
to make of us, and we got in the local paper even though we were
competing with the county fair.... <G>

JT


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Article 22079
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:06:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:
> Hi Jim.... My faulty memory doesn't recall a painting, and somehow I
> didn't take a picture of it when I visited.

It's there.  Likely you visited before I had it done.  If you are inside
the reading room facing the front door, it is hanging on the wall on
your right hand side (the north side), near the glass case with the
books and videos in it.

  Anyway, I did take a
> picture of a picture of the two of them, and it's from a cruise,
> that's not what you meant, is it?

No, that's not what I meant.

> That trip to Butler was quite enjoyable.

I like Butler too.  We go up once a year for the annual board meeting.

Jim

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Article 22080
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:06:53 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:
> Hi Jim.... My faulty memory doesn't recall a painting, and somehow I
> didn't take a picture of it when I visited.

It's there.  Likely you visited before I had it done.  If you are inside
the reading room facing the front door, it is hanging on the wall on
your right hand side (the north side), near the glass case with the
books and videos in it.

  Anyway, I did take a
> picture of a picture of the two of them, and it's from a cruise,
> that's not what you meant, is it?

No, that's not what I meant.

> That trip to Butler was quite enjoyable.

I like Butler too.  We go up once a year for the annual board meeting.

Jim

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Article 22081
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:40:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Free Discussion is not Free 
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:13:49 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:

>We're been here on SFF Net since 1/1997--it's hard to believe.  The HF
>has been continuously posting since 11/91 variously on Prodigy, GEnie,
>AOL, and here.
>
>Thanks for being my cobbers for all this time!
>
The current Patrons of the HF are thanked on the website.
http://www.sff.net/people/HF/ .

I went to update the newsgroup archive on the Cottrell's server, but
the December posts have not yet completely archived.  I'll post when
they are out there.  

SFF Net members, of course, have access to all archived newsgroups all
the time.

JusTin

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Article 22082
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:07:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:
> Hi Jim.... My faulty memory doesn't recall a painting, and somehow I
> didn't take a picture of it when I visited.

It's there.  Likely you visited before I had it done.  If you are inside
the reading room facing the front door, it is hanging on the wall on
your right hand side (the north side), near the glass case with the
books and videos in it.

  Anyway, I did take a
> picture of a picture of the two of them, and it's from a cruise,
> that's not what you meant, is it?

No, that's not what I meant.

> That trip to Butler was quite enjoyable.

I like Butler too.  We go up once a year for the annual board meeting.

Jim



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Article 22083
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:09:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

P.S.  clicking on the link gives a 404 error.
Jim

JT wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:16:13 -0800, "James R. Cunningham"
> <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> >Send a private e-mail to me at jrccea@bellsouth.net with your snail-mail
> >address, and I'll take a photo of it while I'm there for the board
> >meeting this summer and send it to you.  It's based mostly on a photo
> >taken of Robert and Ginny during one of their cruises.  The photo was
> >taken shortly after Robert had the skin cancer removed from his cheek.
> >We managed to lose the scar during the process of completing the
> >painting.
> >Jim
> >
> Hi Jim.... My faulty memory doesn't recall a painting, and somehow I
> didn't take a picture of it when I visited.  Anyway, I did take a
> picture of a picture of the two of them, and it's from a cruise,
> that's not what you meant, is it?
> I did a quick low-quality scan of the photo at:
> http://hammer.prohosting.com/~tilden/heinleins.jpg ; I'm not intending
> to leave it up permanently.
> 
> That trip to Butler was quite enjoyable.  The library didn't know what
> to make of us, and we got in the local paper even though we were
> competing with the county fair.... <G>
> 
> JT



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Article 22084
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:45:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:09:56 -0800, "James R. Cunningham"
<jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>P.S.  clicking on the link gives a 404 error.
>Jim
>

>> I did a quick low-quality scan of the photo at:
>> http://hammer.prohosting.com/~tilden/heinleins.jpg ; I'm not intending
>> to leave it up permanently.
>> 
Hmmm. I just cutnpasted it and it worked fine, also browsed by going
to my webpage and replacing the file name.  Can anyone else get to it,
or is it possible IE6 (my browser) likes it while other browsers may
not?

JT

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Article 22085
From: Jane Davitt 
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:15:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:09:56 -0800, "James R. Cunningham"
> <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>P.S.  clicking on the link gives a 404 error.
>>Jim
>>
> 
> 
>>>I did a quick low-quality scan of the photo at:
>>>http://hammer.prohosting.com/~tilden/heinleins.jpg ; I'm not intending
>>>to leave it up permanently.
>>>
>>
> Hmmm. I just cutnpasted it and it worked fine, also browsed by going
> to my webpage and replacing the file name.  Can anyone else get to it,
> or is it possible IE6 (my browser) likes it while other browsers may
> not?
> 
> JT

I see it fine using Netscape 7. It's the picture from Grumbles, isn't it?

Jane

-- 
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Article 22086
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:39:12 -0800
Subject: Re: Ginny's Passing
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

This is the message I get when clicking on the url.
JimC

                               404 Error - File Not Found
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not found.

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