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Article 22537
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:11:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>Deb:   I have seen some of "Tom Corbet" and I don't know if any old
>kinescopes (sp?) of that series were saved.  

  I found vhs copies of the series listed on Amazon but none
available. I imagine some can be hunted up on Ebay and the like.


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.robertaheinlein.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 22538
From: David Wright" 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:38:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


Ed Johnson <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:3ck7fvcg24fchmjb95eingsknfnlag6jbf@4ax.com...
> Deb:   I have seen some of "Tom Corbet" and I don't know if any old
> kinescopes (sp?) of that series were saved.  I wouldn't be surprised
> if Doc and BC haven't also seen that old TV series.  IIRC, it aired
> in the early `50s.   Anyone else recall seeing Tom Corbet: Space
> Cadet?

Most definitely. One of my earliest introductions to TV and to Science
Fiction. It was before I started reading Heinlein and only then did I
realize that there was at least a minor connection between the book and the
tv series.

There are pictures and comments somewhere on the internet, but its been a
while since I looked at them and don't have a URL handy.

Corny as all hell, but, at that age, I wasn't picky. I even liked Captain
Video and Space Patrol.

--
David Wright
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Article 22539
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:11:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

David:   
  
>Corny as all hell, but, at that age, I wasn't picky. I even liked Captain
>Video and Space Patrol.
 
Me too!  <G>

Ed J


On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:38:47 -0400, "David Wright" wrote:
      <snip>
>
>Most definitely. One of my earliest introductions to TV and to Science
>Fiction. It was before I started reading Heinlein and only then did I
>realize that there was at least a minor connection between the book and the
>tv series.
>
>There are pictures and comments somewhere on the internet, but its been a
>while since I looked at them and don't have a URL handy.
>
>Corny as all hell, but, at that age, I wasn't picky. I even liked Captain
>Video and Space Patrol.


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Article 22540
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:09:15 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Yeah, I discovered Tom Corbett about the same time I started reading
Robert's books but didn't know the connection at that time.  I still
miss it.  I don't recall seeing any VHS copies among the vidotapes at
Ginny's house, but the archives or perhaps Bill Patterson would know if
she had any Tom Corbett copies in her tape collection.  As an aside, I
have her personal VHS tape of Destination Moon (I think its the copy Yoj
Kondo gave her).
JimC

Deb Houdek Rule wrote:
> 
> >Deb:   I have seen some of "Tom Corbet" and I don't know if any old
> >kinescopes (sp?) of that series were saved.

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Article 22541
From: James R. Cunningham" 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:10:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Seconded.

Ed Johnson wrote:
> 
> David:
 
> Me too!  <G>
> 
> Ed J

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Article 22542
From: David Wright" 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:24:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Heinlein Movie Options
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


James R. Cunningham <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3EF49F4B.8585F116@bellsouth.net...
> Yeah, I discovered Tom Corbett about the same time I started reading
> Robert's books but didn't know the connection at that time.  I still
> miss it.  I don't recall seeing any VHS copies among the vidotapes at
> Ginny's house, but the archives or perhaps Bill Patterson would know if
> she had any Tom Corbett copies in her tape collection.  As an aside, I
> have her personal VHS tape of Destination Moon (I think its the copy Yoj
> Kondo gave her).
> JimC

Great!. That was another one which thoroughly enjoyed as a young teenager.
Also didn't know the Heinlein connection until much later.
--
David Wright
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Article 22543
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:29:02 -0700
Subject: Fake or Foto?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

This website sets up high-quality CG pictures and actual photos in a
comparison, to see if people can tell the difference. If you get all of the
first ten right, then you go for a more difficult bonus round with four
images.

http://www.fakeorfoto.com/

I'd like to give one hint, though some brave souls would prefer to go in
without a lifeguard. If I had had this hint, I'd have gotten 10 out of 10,
but I ended up with 8 out of 10, instead.

See below...































There are an equal number of fakes and real ones in each test.


-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22544
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:04:01 -0700
Subject: Censorship Wins Again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that it is legal for Congress to require
libraries to install Internet filtering software always-on on their Internet
computers, or give up federal funding.

http://shorterlink.com/?SQOCIC

Such software, of course, is not only unreliable, but many manufacturers
deliberately block websites with agendas they don't like, such as
anti-blocking-software sites, or, in one case, over half of the ten
political parties that had candidates for president on Florida's (IIRC)
ballot.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22545
From: jpvrolyk@sff.net (John Paul Vrolyk)
Date: 23 Jun 2003 21:28:50 GMT
Subject: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.  She
was born at 7:28 pm on June 22, 2003, and weighed in at a bouncing
9 lbs & 9 ozs.  Oh yeah, and 22.5 inches long.

Mother & daughter are both doing very well, and the father & big
brother are doing okay, too.  (I just barely made it back east from
Washington state in time for the last stages of the delivery, and,
after a month apart, Jack was glad to see his Papa!)

Leslie's grandmother is named Virginia, and we've enjoyed living
in the state of Virginia, but of course it won't escape notice here
that our mutual favourite author's wife was also named Virginia.
Draw whatever conclusions you may.

-- 
John Paul Vrolyk
jp@vrolyk.org

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Article 22546
From: JT 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:34:23 -0400
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 23 Jun 2003 21:28:50 GMT, jpvrolyk@sff.net (John Paul Vrolyk)
wrote:

>Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
>announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.  She
>was born at 7:28 pm on June 22, 2003, and weighed in at a bouncing
>9 lbs & 9 ozs.  Oh yeah, and 22.5 inches long.
>

We are so happy for you all!  Virginia certainly came in at a
*healthy* weight, I'm sure Les is glad she's out in the world! ;)

Glad you made it back in time, and I hope "the Company" can still
extend a decent paternal leave even though you're pretty new.

Let us know when some pictures are out on the web somewhere!

JT (& Christine)

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Article 22547
From: Dee" 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:59:56 -0500
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

"John Paul Vrolyk" <jpvrolyk@sff.net> wrote in message
news:3ef77112.0@news.sff.net...
> Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
> announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.

Congratulations to the whoe family.

--Dee2



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Article 22548
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:34:38 -0700
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Congratulations, Leslie and John Paul! Glad to hear it.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined

John Paul Vrolyk wrote:
> Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
> announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.  She
> was born at 7:28 pm on June 22, 2003, and weighed in at a bouncing
> 9 lbs & 9 ozs.  Oh yeah, and 22.5 inches long.
>
> Mother & daughter are both doing very well, and the father & big
> brother are doing okay, too.  (I just barely made it back east from
> Washington state in time for the last stages of the delivery, and,
> after a month apart, Jack was glad to see his Papa!)
>
> Leslie's grandmother is named Virginia, and we've enjoyed living
> in the state of Virginia, but of course it won't escape notice here
> that our mutual favourite author's wife was also named Virginia.
> Draw whatever conclusions you may.



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Article 22549
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:27:55 -0500
Subject: Space travel
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

From Flying Magazine July 2003 Letters page 22

-----------
Space travel appeals to the sort of men who boarded the Mayflower or the
Golden Hind, who lashed their families and worldly goods aboard a raft
on the Ohio River and who headed for California in a wagon.  If America
no longer breeds such men our day is over and we are headed for the
dustbin of history.  Humans will explore the solar system and someday
build starships.....as overweight, overage, and out of shape as I am, I
would ride the shuttle tomorrow.
Norman Chaput Dahlonega, GA

---------------------------
What the space program needs more than brave explorers are taxpayers
because no rational business could afford a project like the space
shuttle.  Early terrestrial explorers, on the other hand -- even those
backed by governments -- had a very clear profit motive.  We are still
breeding plenty of people with the profit motive, and maybe someday one
will figure out how to make a buck in space. --Ed.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking for your thoughts here, people.  The magazine also has a
picture of the Bert
Rutan re-usable sub orbital vehicle.  Airplane?  Spaceship?  I have
often thought that an air breathing launch stage was the way to go.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Democracy is a form of worship.  It is the worship of jackals by
jackasses." --  H. L. Menken



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Article 22550
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:29:28 -0500
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Congratulation to all.  Keep in mind that you have a way station here on
your way west.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Democracy is a form of worship.  It is the worship of jackals by
jackasses." --  H. L. Menken



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Article 22551
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:36:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Censorship Wins Again
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Filksinger--
     Libraries should limit what youth and children should be able to
see.  While I personally think it should be strictly a local issue, if
(since) the federal government is financing these institutions, the
congress does have the power to control how those moneys are spent.
That is all the Supreme Court said -- that it is not up to the court to
override congress on this issue.

     The proper solution -- get the federal government out of local
libraries.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Democracy is a form of worship.  It is the worship of jackals by
jackasses." --  H. L. Menken



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Article 22552
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:05:13 GMT
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On 23 Jun 2003 21:28:50 GMT, jpvrolyk@sff.net (John Paul Vrolyk)
wrote:

Yes, Congrats to all. Sounds like a healthy one, if size is any
indicator anyway. Good Luck to all.

Fader



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Article 22553
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700
Subject: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.

I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start until
at least Friday....

Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined




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Article 22554
From: Dean White" 
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:50:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

"Filksinger" <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:3ef93d2b.0@news.sff.net...
> Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
> read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
> mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
> systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
>
> I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
> realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start
until
> at least Friday....
>
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>


Good luck with the new job.

-- 
www.DeanWhite.net
 has contact information



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Article 22555
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:33:30 -0400
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Congratulations to you all! I'm sure Les is happy to have delivered 
before it gets *too* hot.

John Paul Vrolyk wrote:

>Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
>announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.  She
>was born at 7:28 pm on June 22, 2003, and weighed in at a bouncing
>9 lbs & 9 ozs.  Oh yeah, and 22.5 inches long.
>
>Mother & daughter are both doing very well, and the father & big
>brother are doing okay, too.  (I just barely made it back east from
>Washington state in time for the last stages of the delivery, and,
>after a month apart, Jack was glad to see his Papa!)
>
>Leslie's grandmother is named Virginia, and we've enjoyed living
>in the state of Virginia, but of course it won't escape notice here
>that our mutual favourite author's wife was also named Virginia.
>Draw whatever conclusions you may.
>
>  
>

-- 
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca



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Article 22556
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:33:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Excellent news.

Filksinger wrote:

>Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
>read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
>mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
>systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
>
>I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
>realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start until
>at least Friday....
>
>Filksinger
>AKA David Nasset, Sr.
>Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca



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Article 22557
From: George H Cardozo 
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:05:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Congratulations! My the work be interesting, and the people be fun.

Carol

Filksinger wrote:
> 
> Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
> read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
> mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
> systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
> 
> I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
> realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start until
> at least Friday....
> 
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined

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Article 22558
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:15:59 GMT
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


  Congratulations to you all!


Deb  (D.A. Houdek) 
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.robertaheinlein.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com

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Article 22559
From: Catherine Hampton 
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:36:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
>read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
>mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
>systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
>
>I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
>realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start until
>at least Friday....

YES!!! :)  Congratulations.  And I hope to hear similar news from
several other people (here and elsewhere) soon. 


--
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===========================================================
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(Please use this address for replies -- the address in my header is a
spam trap.)

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Article 22560
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:46:04 -0400
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

John Paul:
       Congratulations!
I hope that mom and baby are doing well.

Ed J


On 23 Jun 2003 21:28:50 GMT, jpvrolyk@sff.net (John Paul Vrolyk)
wrote:

>Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
>announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.  She
>was born at 7:28 pm on June 22, 2003, and weighed in at a bouncing
>9 lbs & 9 ozs.  Oh yeah, and 22.5 inches long.
>
>Mother & daughter are both doing very well, and the father & big
>brother are doing okay, too.  (I just barely made it back east from
>Washington state in time for the last stages of the delivery, and,
>after a month apart, Jack was glad to see his Papa!)
>
>Leslie's grandmother is named Virginia, and we've enjoyed living
>in the state of Virginia, but of course it won't escape notice here
>that our mutual favourite author's wife was also named Virginia.
>Draw whatever conclusions you may.


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Article 22561
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:50:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Filksinger: 
   Good luck at your new job.
(I'm now telling people that I am semi-retired.  It sounds better
than being out of work.  When I land a job, I'll stop being
"retired" <ng>).

Ed J

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. You can
>read about them at www.mrsys.com. Essentially, their software is a
>mammography database using SQL that can be interfaced with the hospital
>systems already in use for scheduling appointments and such.
>
>I start tomorrow at 7:30 AM. Of course, it was nearly five hours before I
>realized that there were at least 5 different reason I shouldn't start until
>at least Friday....
>
>Filksinger
>AKA David Nasset, Sr.
>Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
>


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Article 22562
From: JT 
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:49:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems. 

I guess you have a new theme song, Filk....


"Thanks for the Mammories"

<G,D,&R>

Seriously, congrats, on the job--keep up on those SQL patches. ;)

JT

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Article 22563
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:28:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Another friend asked me if I was working for a bunch of boobs.:P

Unfortunately, the boss decided he didn't want me, told other people to let
me know, and left for the day without explaining why. So, I'm looking again.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined

JT wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700, "Filksinger"
> <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems.
>
> I guess you have a new theme song, Filk....
>
>
> "Thanks for the Mammories"
>
> <G,D,&R>
>
> Seriously, congrats, on the job--keep up on those SQL patches. ;)
>
> JT



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Article 22564
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 03:49:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Dave:    Un-F*cking-believable!

I guess that you are back with your continued job hunt.
Good Luck for a better result.

Ed

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:28:39 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>Another friend asked me if I was working for a bunch of boobs.:P
>
>Unfortunately, the boss decided he didn't want me, told other people to let
>me know, and left for the day without explaining why. So, I'm looking again.


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Article 22565
From: Gordon G. Sollars 
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:40:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

In article <3efbabe2.0@news.sff.net>, filksinger@earthling.net says...
> Another friend asked me if I was working for a bunch of boobs.:P
> 
> Unfortunately, the boss decided he didn't want me, told other people to let
> me know, and left for the day without explaining why. So, I'm looking again.

Looks like you would have been working for one boob in particular.

Best of luck, Filk. 

-- 
Gordon Sollars
gsollars@pobox.com

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Article 22566
From: George H Cardozo 
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:42:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Ah, Employment
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Aww man. That really sucks.

 I'll be joining you in the wonderful world of job hunting sometime next month.

Good luck, Carol

Filksinger wrote:

> Another friend asked me if I was working for a bunch of boobs.:P
>
> Unfortunately, the boss decided he didn't want me, told other people to let
> me know, and left for the day without explaining why. So, I'm looking again.
>
> --
> Filksinger
> AKA David Nasset, Sr.
> Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
>
> JT wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:11:46 -0700, "Filksinger"
> > <filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, it looks like I've got a job. Mammography Reporting Systems.
> >
> > I guess you have a new theme song, Filk....
> >
> >
> > "Thanks for the Mammories"
> >
> > <G,D,&R>
> >
> > Seriously, congrats, on the job--keep up on those SQL patches. ;)
> >
> > JT


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Article 22567
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:43:01 -0700
Subject: Do Not Call Me:)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

The national Do Not Call list is now active. If your name is on this list,
then most telemarketers cannot call you. For more information, see:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/


-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22568
From: JT 
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:30:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Do Not Call Me:)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:43:01 -0700, "Filksinger"
<filksinger@earthling.net> wrote:

>The national Do Not Call list is now active. If your name is on this list,
>then most telemarketers cannot call you. For more information, see:
>
>http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/

www.donotcall.gov

They did something like 700,000 numbers the first day, 3 of which were
mine. ;)

JT

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Article 22569
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:06:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Space travel
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in

> build starships.....as overweight, overage, and out of shape as I am, I
> would ride the shuttle tomorrow.
> Norman Chaput Dahlonega, GA

I strongly agree with that sentiment!


> ---------------------------
> What the space program needs more than brave explorers are taxpayers
> because no rational business could afford a project like the space
> shuttle.  Early terrestrial explorers, on the other hand -- even those
> backed by governments -- had a very clear profit motive.  We are still
> breeding plenty of people with the profit motive, and maybe someday one
> will figure out how to make a buck in space. --Ed.

There are people who are figuring out how to make a buck in space. The
problem is that it either requires government's active participation
(Russian trips to Space Station) or government to get out of the way! But
the space entrepreneurs seem to be like the donkey stuck between two piles
of hay, uncertain of which way to go. Frankly, I think both piles are
unappetizing. We'll never get anywhere while governments have control over
space. But there isn't enough non-government capital and state of the art to
get there alone.

4 or 5 years ago, I would have been much more optimistic about the prospects
of private space ventures. In the current economic climate, I'm just not
sure where or when we'll see the private sector step up.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> I'm looking for your thoughts here, people.  The magazine also has a
> picture of the Bert
> Rutan re-usable sub orbital vehicle.  Airplane?  Spaceship?  I have
> often thought that an air breathing launch stage was the way to go.

My opinion is, if it gets you there, that's the way to go!

WJaKe



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Article 22570
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:08:13 -0400
Subject: Re: New arrival!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"John Paul Vrolyk" <jpvrolyk@sff.net> wrote in message
news:3ef77112.0@news.sff.net...
> Leslie Dawn (Johnson) Vrolyk & John Paul Vrolyk are pleased to
> announce the birth of their daughter, Virginia Athena Vrolyk.

Way to go Les and JP! Welcome to the newest member of the Vrolyk gang!

WJaKe



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Article 22571
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:12:35 -0400
Subject: John Varley
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Russel Letson has an interesting review in the June issue of Locus. The book
under review is "Red Thunder" by John Varley. "John Varley seems to have a
Thing for Heinlein." begins the review, which continues on with a plot
outline for his latest book. Basically, high-school kids build a rocket to
reach Mars first. Seems I've seen that plot somewhere before. Our hero is
Manny Garcia. Seems I've heard that name before. Another character is named
Jubal. The parallels go on.

What are we to make of John Varley? What is there to his "thing" with
Heinlein? Has he crossed the line between homage and theft? Or is it just
that he hasn't quite obscured the serial number on this story?

I have never met the man, but they more I read of him and by him, the more I
hope we cross paths in Toronto.

Any thoughts folks? I haven't yet read the book, it should be arriving
shortly!

WJaKe



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Article 22572
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:04:59 -0700
Subject: Re: John Varley
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

William J. Keaton wrote:
<snip>
> What are we to make of John Varley? What is there to his "thing" with
> Heinlein? Has he crossed the line between homage and theft? Or is it
> just that he hasn't quite obscured the serial number on this story?

I would definitely call that a homage rather than theft, unless there are
Nazis (Commies?) on Mars, preparing to attack the Earth, or a human on Mars
named Smith with strange powers. In that event, I'll reserve judgement.

-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 22573
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Space travel
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Jake:   I think that Rutan will capture the imagination of the
public and for that I am grateful.  I hope that he inspires others
to follow in his footsteps.  I do not hold out much hope for his
designs to put us much closer to orbit (I don't count a ten kilo or
so payload). I could see Boeing or Lockheed-Martin (or
Russia\Antonov225) building an airplane large enough to launch a
half million pound rocket from 40,000 feet at 600 mph.  You could
rival the space shuttle with a configuration like that; at a
fraction of the shuttles cost per pound into LEO.  I have had that
idea since the '80's.  L-Mart has just proposed it as a serious
idea.

Ed J



On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:06:26 -0400, "William J. Keaton"
<wjake@prodigy.net> wrote:

>
>"Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in
>
>> build starships.....as overweight, overage, and out of shape as I am, I
>> would ride the shuttle tomorrow.
>> Norman Chaput Dahlonega, GA
>
>I strongly agree with that sentiment!
>
>
>> ---------------------------
>> What the space program needs more than brave explorers are taxpayers
>> because no rational business could afford a project like the space
>> shuttle.  Early terrestrial explorers, on the other hand -- even those
>> backed by governments -- had a very clear profit motive.  We are still
>> breeding plenty of people with the profit motive, and maybe someday one
>> will figure out how to make a buck in space. --Ed.
>
>There are people who are figuring out how to make a buck in space. The
>problem is that it either requires government's active participation
>(Russian trips to Space Station) or government to get out of the way! But
>the space entrepreneurs seem to be like the donkey stuck between two piles
>of hay, uncertain of which way to go. Frankly, I think both piles are
>unappetizing. We'll never get anywhere while governments have control over
>space. But there isn't enough non-government capital and state of the art to
>get there alone.
>
>4 or 5 years ago, I would have been much more optimistic about the prospects
>of private space ventures. In the current economic climate, I'm just not
>sure where or when we'll see the private sector step up.
>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> I'm looking for your thoughts here, people.  The magazine also has a
>> picture of the Bert
>> Rutan re-usable sub orbital vehicle.  Airplane?  Spaceship?  I have
>> often thought that an air breathing launch stage was the way to go.
>
>My opinion is, if it gets you there, that's the way to go!
>
>WJaKe
>


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Article 22574
From: Dee" 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:48:40 -0500
Subject: For the D.C. contingent
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Hi, all--

    I am planning a trip to D.C. next month with my mother and my niece, to
do the tourist thing.  What are the chances of getting together?  We plan
to arrive the evening of Saturday, 7/19, and stay through Wednesday.

--Dee2




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