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Article 23872
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 27 Aug 2004 02:28:44 GMT
Subject: Menace from Earth
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

A little birdy tells me that ARTC (www.artc.org) will be offering a full-on
radio play of The Menace from Earth in the very near future. They already
offer two Heinlein radio plays (see
http://www.artc.org/reference/TheDeansList.html), and have plans for two
more. . .

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Article 23873
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:43:41 -0500
Subject: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT wrote:

>
> It's funny, I realized the other day now that I'm 35 I could actually
> _be_ President--I now meet all the requirements.  At least you'll
> never have that kind of pressure. ;)
>
> JT

JT--
     You missed one qualification -- you have to be elected by the
electoral college.

     Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral college?

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
remaining good eye.'"



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Article 23874
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:47:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Announcement, etc..
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Rosie--
    See Kerry information at:

johnkerrythenewsoldier.blogspot.com

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
remaining good eye.'"



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Article 23875
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:50:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Announcement, etc..
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

JT--
     Since you have been here we have a new house with an available
guest room.  If you visit Carmel and don't stop in, I'll have to get out
my book of curses and select a good one.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
remaining good eye.'"



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Article 23876
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:53:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Star Wars DVDs.
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Deb--

     I have good (laserdisc) copies of the three original Star wars;
you (and/or others here) are welcome to stop by to see them next time
you are in the neighborhood.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
remaining good eye.'"



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Article 23877
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:03:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Welcome Back, Brian!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Brian---
     Welcome back.  It sure is a lot different that it used to be.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

"Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
remaining good eye.'"



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Article 23878
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:06:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Star Wars DVDs.
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>     I have good (laserdisc) copies of the three original Star wars;
>you (and/or others here) are welcome to stop by to see them next time
>you are in the neighborhood.

  BC--hope to take you up on that some day. And you are lucky! Guard
those treasures.


Deb Houdek Rule
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
http://www.heinleinsociety.org
http://www.heinleinprize.com

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Article 23879
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:06:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>     Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral college?

  My general impulse has always been "yes", but OTOH the electoral
college does add that level of bizarre humor to the whole process, and
utterly baffles the rest of the world as to just what the heck we're
up to, so my answer is "no", we ought to keep it.


Deb Houdek Rule
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
http://www.heinleinsociety.org
http://www.heinleinprize.com

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Article 23880
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:20:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Deb:  I like the circuitous way you reached that conclusion <G>.   
  The electoral college is one of the remaining 'States Rights' with
some real impact.  Winner Take All, all of each states electoral
votes.

Ed J

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:06:20 GMT, debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek
Rule) wrote:

>
>>     Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral college?
>
>  My general impulse has always been "yes", but OTOH the electoral
>college does add that level of bizarre humor to the whole process, and
>utterly baffles the rest of the world as to just what the heck we're
>up to, so my answer is "no", we ought to keep it.
>
>
>Deb Houdek Rule
>http://www.dahoudek.com
>http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
>http://www.heinleinsociety.org
>http://www.heinleinprize.com


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Article 23881
From: John Paul Vrolyk 
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:16:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Charles Graft wrote:
>      Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral college?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I could make multiple arguments, legal, political, mathematical
and pragmatic, about why keeping the electoral college is a
good idea, but why should I bother?  Status quo wins by default.

Is anyone going to make any convicing arguments as to why the
electoral college should be done away with?

-- 
John Paul Vrolyk
jp@vrolyk.org

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Article 23882
From: georule@civilwarstlouis.com
Date: 29 Aug 2004 04:50:57 GMT
Subject: Heinlein Society Newsletter Online
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

The July newsletter of The Heinlein Society is now available at
www.heinleinsociety.org. In a particularly fine newsletter, do not miss
Keith Kato's memories of Robert Heinlein. Be warned it is not particularly
56k modem friendly.

P.S. --Of course if you were a *member* you wouldn't have to wait an extra
two months to read these things. . .

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Article 23883
From: Brian E. Scherrer 
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 08:52:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Welcome Back, Brian!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Charles Graft <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:

>Brian---
>     Welcome back.  It sure is a lot different that it used to be.

BC;

It sure is.  *Days* go by now with no new posts.  Remember when it was
a serious time investment just to keep up?

Regards,
  -- Brian

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Article 23884
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:53:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Welcome Back, Brian!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


>It sure is.  *Days* go by now with no new posts.  Remember when it was
>a serious time investment just to keep up?

 Hi Brian, nice to see you back. 

  Yes, alas, the days of insanely long involved debates seem to be
past--we all can predict each others' stances on just about anything
and no one gets mad (much) at anything anyone else says, so...

  
Deb Houdek Rule
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
http://www.heinleinsociety.org
http://www.heinleinprize.com

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Article 23885
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:33:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Not quite true. I believe Nebraska and Maine allow the electoral votes 
to be split, although I can't recall how it's done, and am too lazy to 
look it up today. [g]

Ed Johnson wrote:

>Deb:  I like the circuitous way you reached that conclusion <G>.   
>  The electoral college is one of the remaining 'States Rights' with
>some real impact.  Winner Take All, all of each states electoral
>votes.
>
>  
>


-- 
Eli V. Hestermann
ehestermann@charter.net
"Vita brevis est, ars longa" - Seneca


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Article 23886
From: JT 
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:37:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:43:41 -0500, Charles Graft <chasgraft@aol.com>
wrote:

>     You missed one qualification -- you have to be elected by the
>electoral college.
>
Yes, but's that merely a matter of a few hundred million to get my
name out there.  ;) 

Even if I had done that to sufficient effect last election, I wouldn't
have been able to assume the office.  Now I can.

Never let it be said Mrs. Tilden's boys weren't self-assured. :)

--JT




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Article 23887
From: Filksinger" 
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:15:14 -0700
Subject: Pro or Con?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Charles Graft wrote:
> Rosie--
>     See Kerry information at:
>
> johnkerrythenewsoldier.blogspot.com

For the other side of that coin, you might try http://tinyurl.com/2r93c
(http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth)
.. For information on questions concerning the veracity of the attacks on
Kerry specifically made at BC's recommended site, see
http://tinyurl.com/3lm3j
(http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted
=5&ei=1&en=729916e83be2ab35&ex=1094005334).


-- 
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined



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Article 23888
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:46:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

After the last Presidential election, I was very glad that we had the
Electoral College.  My little vote up here in Washington could gum up the
works and strike a blow for "anarchy".   Using a straight popular vote, it
would have been over by November 30, 2000-- chads or not.

-- 
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

`rita
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
"Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in message
news:412F8EED.366A9C55@aol.com...
> JT wrote:
>
> >
> > It's funny, I realized the other day now that I'm 35 I could actually
> > _be_ President--I now meet all the requirements.  At least you'll
> > never have that kind of pressure. ;)
> >
> > JT
>
> JT--
>      You missed one qualification -- you have to be elected by the
> electoral college.
>
>      Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral college?
>
> --
> <<Big Charlie>>
>
> "Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
> remaining good eye.'"
>
>



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Article 23889
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:47:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Star Wars DVDs.
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Charlie:    Remember "Duck and Cover" from elementary school civil
defense drills?  I do.  Doc Coffin sent this link along to show that
as children, we were given the wrong information.  Under the desk,
chair, car etc will kill you; along side of an object is much safer.

http://www.amerrescue.org/knowledge.htm

Ed J


On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:53:49 -0500, Charles Graft
<chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:

>Deb--
>
>     I have good (laserdisc) copies of the three original Star wars;
>you (and/or others here) are welcome to stop by to see them next time
>you are in the neighborhood.


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Article 23890
From: RPostelnek" 
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 23:29:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I was also thinking after the last election, that if it was a straight
popular vote the candiates could just sit in Washington and make speeches on
TV.  They wouldn't have to care about what the different states and areas of
the country wanted.  It is a state right.  Besides it would really make the
elections boring.  And the Electorial College works, so why fix it.

Rosie
"Lorrita Morgan" <lorrita_m@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> After the last Presidential election, I was very glad that we had the
> Electoral College.  My little vote up here in Washington could gum up the
> works and strike a blow for "anarchy".   Using a straight popular vote, it
> would have been over by November 30, 2000-- chads or not.
>
> -- 
> =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>
> `rita
> =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> "Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:412F8EED.366A9C55@aol.com...
> > JT wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's funny, I realized the other day now that I'm 35 I could actually
> > > _be_ President--I now meet all the requirements.  At least you'll
> > > never have that kind of pressure. ;)
> > >
> > > JT
> >
> > JT--
> >      You missed one qualification -- you have to be elected by the
> > electoral college.
> >
> >      Discussion point:  Is it time to do away with the electoral
college?
> >
> > --
> > <<Big Charlie>>
> >
> > "Seen on the door to a light-wave lab: 'Do not look into laser with
> > remaining good eye.'"
> >
> >
>
>
>



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